SO since there has not been a peep - I am guessing #SCOTUS is planning to hear The Student Loan frivolous cases just at the end of June when everything closes for the Fourth of July.
Does anyone know any different? If it is so, it's going to be another "Rule and Dash" against The Constitution. Right?
Just mere coinicidence Repugnicans came out with a "Student Plan plan" just now before they "ruled in June", right?
#StudentLoans ##SJC #Law #Constitution #Biden #FrivolousLawsuit
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@SameGirlie I really need to catch up on this.. I thought it was ruled unconstitutional a while ago?
@freemo Cases are up before The Supreme Court of the U.S. This will be a final judgement on the matter. We've been told June for the judgement. hope that helps a bit
@SameGirlie Ahh interesting.. I will be curious to hear the results.
Personally I hope they say the loan forgiveness is unconstitutional and I hope the result is that the government passes laws that make college free or cheap the right way (paying FUTURE college bills, not past, and paid by the government not loan agencies).
::fingers crossed::
@freemo My fingers are crossed that SCOTUS does not rule the use of actual laws unconstitional. It is wrong and it is a hijacking of our RIghts, Government, and Process by appointees of a Criminal.
Keep in mind that Congress wrote their appropriations bills based on reliance that these student loans would be paid back.
By law, Congress regularly cites these payments as part of the legal budget, no different from any other tax.
Biden cannot legally decline to collect this money any more than he can just decide not to collect corporate taxes any more.
That these student loan payments are part of the legal funding of government is a point all too often overlooked.
@volkris @SameGirlie @freemo Forgiving a loan is spending. Only the House can spend. Biden has no right to forgive a loan without an appropriations bill.
Excellent point. Regardless of who appointed the supreme court it clearly was not within Biden's legal right to do so no matter how you cut it.
Not everyone having a mature conversation with a difference of opinion is gaslighting, please stop being hyperbolic.
If you'd care to elaborate on what you mean I'd love to hear you out. But your response is far too short for me to know what you mean.
@freemo @SameGirlie @volkris Context missing, did someone delete a toot here?
No SameGirlie rage quit and blocked you and everyone else int he thread.
@freemo @SameGirlie @volkris Oh well, that's called losing the argument.
@mike805 @SameGirlie @volkris
Your opinion cant be very valuable if you didnt even bother to consider dissenting opinions in forming it... I just call it being ignorant, at least when the conversation is otherwise mature.
@freemo @SameGirlie @volkris From what I've seen, the USA in particular is so divided that many people - maybe most - will just shut down when they conclude that you are "one of them." I run into this on noc.social as well when the subject of global warming comes up. There is a resident doomist on there, and he will not discuss the HOW of it. Just "we must stop using fossil fuels right now!"
Yes hyper-polarization in the USA tends to result in people being very aggressive against anyone with a more nuanced or middle road opinion than their own. Its very tiring.
@freemo @SameGirlie @volkris I've actually been accused of "both sides ism" on here. Yeah, I think the American political system is like one of those puppet shows where the puppeteer has one on each hand and they argue with each other.
The issues they argue about all have one thing in common: they are not important to the financier class.
Yea anytime you add even a smidge of nuance to a conversation its "both sidism"... being in the USA is like being in a mental institution where no one is getting treated.
Do Americans even realize how they are seen as the laughing stock of the rest of the world, both left and right politically?
Meh, it's one of those terms that I'd just go ahead and own.
"Why yes, I am engaging in both-sidism because I can about sorting out what's true, and I can think critically and hold two ideas in my head at one time. You don't, or you can't?"
Both sidism may be bad if you amplify both sides indiscriminately.. it is never bad to listen to both sides though.
@volkris @freemo @SameGirlie Yes I do. I genuinely do not fully agree with either political side. I think if you gave either the far Right or the far Left a dictatorship you'd be in hell soon enough. Horseshoe theory is real - both of those extremes are nuts and want to impose their crazy by force on everyone else.