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I understand your point fully. I just hope that somehow that entire movement dies, like facebook, it should die by fading in to insignificace, along with it's owner Mark zukerburg, who after being sued by everyone should be left pennyless on the streets along with his other big tech friends.

Hasn't trump already called for a 'call to arms' I responded to that by saying something like '350+ million+ people all with access to guns, what could possibly go wrong'

We should be careful what we wish for, in that respect.

Problem with some of those you mention, in a sane world they would be locked up, for life, but we have too many people who want to try and suggest it is not their fault, or therea or some other reason not to lock them up, citing they have rights.

Look at the video of the 15 year old pulverising a 10 year old, this isn't bullying it is assault or perhaps attempted murder, we are quick to make excuses, oh they have a hard life at home, broken hone, adhd, autism or something else and try and make excuses, no one thinks about the actual victim, it is never the fault of the purpotrator in the view of what I call 'do gooders' they care more about those who commit offenses, than they do for the victims, but demand swift punishment for the victim should the victim fight back against the bully.

Thing is with Trump and co is they have been allowed to get away with it, we let Putin do the same, bully and black mail the world, We let andrew tate spread his diatribe, from the start, someone needed to say no but didm't so it carried on and got worse, he became intouchable.

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Saying this, there is evidence that children who are abused, can go on to abuse others as they consider that 'normal' behaviour. So they may exhibit that behaviour in school for example. This is, how staff in schools or other professionals can pick on the signs of abuse and act to safeguard the child further.

If that child is not protected and taken away from that environment, the abuse carries on and that child grows up to potentially abuse others, cycle repeats and is complete.

This can be any sort of abuse, neglect, sexual anuse, physical or psycological abuse being the main forms of abuse.

One reason it is essential to be vigilent and report concerns, but just as important for those above you to act accordingly, What we saw in the UK in one scandle, was abuse by 'asian' men, being reported by girls, who are told they are lying, it is their fault OR no one wants to take action as they are terrified of being branded racist, so the abuse carried on.

So people need to be able to report without fear of repurcusions.

As I commented on the case of the child pulverising the other child, adults don't want to get involved as they are terrified of being accused of assault or accused generally of abuse.

Even corporal punishment has some limitations, but we have gone so far the way of don't breath on someone, we are in the situation just like with Putin, Trump and other bullies they act with impunity as no one can say NO.

of course some of that then ends up in the US with a traumatised person walking in to a school with a gun and starting to kill people, then they kill themselves, it seems when they look in to afew of these cases, they were bullied relentlessly, so you can understand why they cracked, in which case we need to ask, what were all the adults around those young people DOING.

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