SO since there has not been a peep - I am guessing #SCOTUS is planning to hear The Student Loan frivolous cases just at the end of June when everything closes for the Fourth of July.
Does anyone know any different? If it is so, it's going to be another "Rule and Dash" against The Constitution. Right?
Just mere coinicidence Repugnicans came out with a "Student Plan plan" just now before they "ruled in June", right?
#StudentLoans ##SJC #Law #Constitution #Biden #FrivolousLawsuit
@SameGirlie I really need to catch up on this.. I thought it was ruled unconstitutional a while ago?
@freemo Cases are up before The Supreme Court of the U.S. This will be a final judgement on the matter. We've been told June for the judgement. hope that helps a bit
@SameGirlie Ahh interesting.. I will be curious to hear the results.
Personally I hope they say the loan forgiveness is unconstitutional and I hope the result is that the government passes laws that make college free or cheap the right way (paying FUTURE college bills, not past, and paid by the government not loan agencies).
@freemo I see
::fingers crossed::
@freemo My fingers are crossed that SCOTUS does not rule the use of actual laws unconstitional. It is wrong and it is a hijacking of our RIghts, Government, and Process by appointees of a Criminal.
Keep in mind that Congress wrote their appropriations bills based on reliance that these student loans would be paid back.
By law, Congress regularly cites these payments as part of the legal budget, no different from any other tax.
Biden cannot legally decline to collect this money any more than he can just decide not to collect corporate taxes any more.
That these student loan payments are part of the legal funding of government is a point all too often overlooked.
@volkris @SameGirlie @freemo Forgiving a loan is spending. Only the House can spend. Biden has no right to forgive a loan without an appropriations bill.
Excellent point. Regardless of who appointed the supreme court it clearly was not within Biden's legal right to do so no matter how you cut it.
Not everyone having a mature conversation with a difference of opinion is gaslighting, please stop being hyperbolic.
If you'd care to elaborate on what you mean I'd love to hear you out. But your response is far too short for me to know what you mean.
@freemo @SameGirlie @volkris Context missing, did someone delete a toot here?
No SameGirlie rage quit and blocked you and everyone else int he thread.
@freemo @SameGirlie @volkris Oh well, that's called losing the argument.
@mike805 @SameGirlie @volkris
Your opinion cant be very valuable if you didnt even bother to consider dissenting opinions in forming it... I just call it being ignorant, at least when the conversation is otherwise mature.
@freemo @SameGirlie @volkris From what I've seen, the USA in particular is so divided that many people - maybe most - will just shut down when they conclude that you are "one of them." I run into this on noc.social as well when the subject of global warming comes up. There is a resident doomist on there, and he will not discuss the HOW of it. Just "we must stop using fossil fuels right now!"
Yes hyper-polarization in the USA tends to result in people being very aggressive against anyone with a more nuanced or middle road opinion than their own. Its very tiring.
@freemo @SameGirlie @volkris I've actually been accused of "both sides ism" on here. Yeah, I think the American political system is like one of those puppet shows where the puppeteer has one on each hand and they argue with each other.
The issues they argue about all have one thing in common: they are not important to the financier class.
Yea anytime you add even a smidge of nuance to a conversation its "both sidism"... being in the USA is like being in a mental institution where no one is getting treated.
Do Americans even realize how they are seen as the laughing stock of the rest of the world, both left and right politically?
@mike805
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@freemo @SameGirlie @volkris
How, do you come to the conclusion that the Frankfurt School led to the current US educational madhouse?
I'm puzzled because I have found an Asylum for the Homeless¹⁸ Intellectual⁸³
(more like "The Outside of the Asylum"
[https://hitchhikers.fandom.com/wiki/The_Outside_of_the_Asylum])
from an educational system gone mad after Reagan put the wrecking ball to it.
And I'm even extensively quoting (Old) Frankfurt School luminary Theodor W. Adorno
for #TROLLING the contemporary Frankfurt School headmistress in the kitchen downstairs:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10227966250966172&set=p.10227966250966172&type=3
[might be shadowbanned by Facebook]:
Just for #TROLLING¹⁹⁹⁵:
In your Refuge for the Homeless¹⁸
let yourself be inspired by the Hausgeist
[English: house spirit, Latin: genius loci]
to consult Theodor W. Adorno's Minima Moralia
"8. If bad boys should tempt you"⁸,
to open the cookbook of a famous aunt on page 8
to get a reference to yet another cookbook*,
whose existence illustrates the problem
that bad boys think that women belong in the kitchen,
and by an extremely serendipitous coincidence,
on the title page, you find the name of her bad boy nephew.
* https://www.booklooker.de/B%C3%BCcher/Angebote/titel=Was+M%C3%A4nnern+so+gut+schmeckt
8. If bad boys should tempt you. – There is an amor intellectualis [Latin: abstract love] for the kitchen staff, the temptation for those who work theoretically or artistically, to relax the intellectual [geistigen] claim on oneself, to lower one’s niveau, to follow all manner of platitudes in the matter [Sache] and expression, which one had rejected as an alert appraiser. Since no categories, not even that of cultivation [Bildung: education], can be proscribed to intellectuals anymore, and a thousand demands of hustle and bustle endanger the concentration, the effort of producing something with a measure of integrity is so great, that scarcely anyone is still capable of it. The pressure of conformity, which burdens everyone who produces something, furthers lowers their demands on themselves. The center of intellectual [geistigen] self-discipline as such is understood to be disintegrating. The taboos which comprised the intellectual [geistigen] stature of a human being, often sedimented experiences and unarticulated recognitions, direct themselves continuously against one’s own impulses, which one learned to condemn, which however are so strong, that only an unquestioning and unquestionable juridics [Instanz] can halt them. What applies to the life of the instinctual drives, applies no less to the life of the mind: the painter and composer, who forbid themselves the use of this or that color combination or chord contrast as kitschy, the author who finds that a linguistic configuration gets on their nerves as banal or pedantic, react so forcefully because there are layers within them which are drawn by such. The rejection of the hegemonic overgrowth of culture presumes that one has participated enough in the latter to feel it in one’s fingertips, as it were, simultaneously drawing from this participation the forces to dismiss it. These forces, which make their appearance as such in individual resistance, are for that reason by no means of a merely individual sort. The intellectual conscience, in which they are integrated, has a social moment so much as the moral superego. It crystallizes in the conception [Vorstellung] of the right society and its citizens. If this conception is set aside – and who could still blindly subscribe to it – then the intellectual compulsion towards the bottom loses its inhibitions, and all the junk which the barbaric culture has left behind in the individuated [Individuum] comes into view: half-education, laxness, cloddish trustfulness, shoddiness. Mostly it is rationalized as humanity, as the wish to make oneself understandable to other human beings, as cosmopolitan responsibility. But the sacrifice of intellectual self-discipline is borne far too easily, to really believe that it is indeed one. This is drastically evident when observing intellectuals whose material situation has changed: as soon as they have convinced themselves even the slightest bit that they must earn a living by writing and nothing else, they send the same junk into the world, down to the last nuances, which in their lusher times they once denounced with the utmost ferocity. Entirely like formerly wealthy emigres, who can finally be as greedy in foreign lands as they always wanted to be at home, so do those who are impoverished in Spirit [Geiste] march enthusiastically into the hell, which is their heaven.
[https://criticaltheoryresearchnetwork.com/2017/06/17/adorno-minima-moralia-1-8-bad-boys-tempt-1944/]
83. https://www.versobooks.com/en-gb/blogs/news/4657-vice-president-by-theodor-adorno
1995. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuzzing#Automated_bug_triage
@tatzelbrumm @freemo @SameGirlie @volkris They infected the American education system with Critical Theory, from what I've read.
@tatzelbrumm@qoto.org @mike805 @freemo @SameGirlie @volkris
Finding the actual link to the TROLLING paper is left as an exercise to the (hopefully not dependent on a post-Reagan US college) student. ;-)