@namark @billstclair I came into editing with CUA/CAA style editors. I could do all things in Visual Slick Edit which I paid for and used for 20 years. But I have embraced FOSS and with such came Vim which is my serious goto. But I have had a back and forth love affair with Emacs. However, writing lisp just begs for Emacs. Even if I have it working "modally" or "stately" as it were. Funny, even having Evil in place I still like c-c c-f and c-x c-s for opening and saving a file. But ZZ still does the save and exit.