https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/Evil
vi in emacs. Aptly named. But I suppose if your fingers have learned that abomination, you might like it. Mine won't. Ever.
Wha? Abomination? Preposterous! It's just different, have you heard of exploring different things? Much fun!
Unless your fingers lost their dexterity, in which case sorry for teasing... though they probably wouldn't have, if you have used vim...
Heh. All in fun. You learned the editor you learned. I won't engage in a vi vs. emacs war. Not to mention all the new boys on the block.
It does always surprise me, though, that Stallman's editor doesn't install by default in most current distributions of Stallman's operating system, but vi does. Fortunately, for me, it's as far away as "sudo apt install emacs".
It also amazes me that a pretty nice portable assembler (C), with a weird pre-processor (C++), is still the source code for huge parts of the computer ecosystem. But that's an even bigger war.
That kind of wars only exists in the minds of those who wage them. It's funny how you say that you won't engage, while very much engaging. Was that the joke?
C is a terrible portable assembler, it doesn't even have addition with carry or long multiplication. Hopefully C++ would fix it... in another 20 years...
@namark @billstclair
If it were all about well thought out well designed language we might all be using Ada.
I might take a look at Pharo which is supposed to be a SmallTalk.
Anything, as long as it isn't on the JVM. That's been the irritating thing about Clojure with every little error dumping me a huge java back trace.
@billstclair @namark pretty sure that is how it works. I don't remember it being any different before. Reason enough to hate on it :)
@billstclair @namark
As it is, I use all the editors. Well, at least Vim, Emacs, Eclipse, Nano, Kate, Gedit, Geany, Whatever there is in online sessions like REPL.it and Jupyter and so on. I do try to stay away from Semi-Free and most IDEs but when they make sense I use them. Tools is tools. The more you know how to use the more choices you have when presented with a new problem.
I have fed my family for decades with C/C++ also with VB and with T-SQL. I have been foraging into languages now that I haven't had much experience with before. I am seriously loving Python. I am also getting pretty enamored with CommonLisp and learning to hate Clojure. Not sure how I am feeling about Erlang, and Go is iffy. Everyone wants the "perfect" language or "tool" but it's not out there.
I hear 'D' claims to be like C++ Minus the mistakes. And I know people that love,love,love Rust, and at least one guy that thinks Go is the best thing since Betty White.
@namark @billstclair I came into editing with CUA/CAA style editors. I could do all things in Visual Slick Edit which I paid for and used for 20 years. But I have embraced FOSS and with such came Vim which is my serious goto. But I have had a back and forth love affair with Emacs. However, writing lisp just begs for Emacs. Even if I have it working "modally" or "stately" as it were. Funny, even having Evil in place I still like c-c c-f and c-x c-s for opening and saving a file. But ZZ still does the save and exit.