#Ukraine Westerners should stop complaining about Russia’s attacks on public infrastructure. This is war, and NATO did the same to Yugoslavia recently. Everyone has short memories, it seems.
@marathon0
Pretty sure not even when accurate is the argument: someone else did bad thing is not an argument, that it (bombing Ukranian power plants) is not bad thing.
Westerners would also need to get that in proportion by reading about it, say here
https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/inatl/longterm/balkans/stories/belgrade052599.htm
"Allied officials said the attacks were intended to disrupt operations by the Serb-led Yugoslav military in Kosovo, the focus of the conflict, and not target civilians. But by increasing the hardship of ordinary citizens, alliance leaders also appeared to be seeking to encourage public disaffection with the government of Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic."
Which is not really quite the same as whats happening in Ukraine. AKA some level false equivalence.
But yes wars are rarely pretty.
@AlanOutback
It absolutely is the same. Not a military man are you? Critical infrastructure is dual-use and is always a military target, regardless of country.
@marathon0
yes dual use infrastructure is always military target. Eg railway lines and roads will have been targeted by everyone. But in doing so you can aim to maximize or minimize civilian harm.
Targetting infrastructure, blitz like, for the purpose of causing hypothermia in civilians, isn't quite the same as what NATO did.
and I dont have to be any kind of military man to know that, just a moral one.
@AlanOutback
Oh you believe that NATO does only surgical strikes, yeah right. Don’t forget they bombed the Chinese embassy, by accident, supposedly.
blah blah / contention
@marathon0
I am pretty sure saying that I ‘believe’ things I did not say. (never said only, never said surgical)
Is not really discussing the topic with me.
I could discuss a topic, but I am not here to swat back that kind stuff.
@AlanOutback
War is War. Ukraine shelled civilians in the Donbass and the LPR since 2014, and didn’t implement either 1 or 2 of the Minsk Peace Accords. Are you aware of this? If not then you aren’t in any moral position to judge the Russians or the Donbass militias who are defending themselves.