Amikke @Amikke@qoto.org

@moffintosh @ashiisbest @PinkWug oh yeah, that always goes well, effectively replacing a "lord" that has to at least stay competitive to a "lord" who's a high level politician residing over a complete monopoly. There's a joke from the bad old days of communism in Poland, "lud pije szampana ustami swoich przedstawicieli!", meaning "the people are drinking champagne via the lips of their representatives". Or another one "za czasów kapitalizmu był wyzysk człowieka przez człowieka, a teraz jest dokładnie odwrotnie" meaning "in the times of capitalism it was man exploiting man, but now it's the exact opposite".

Thinking that politicians will be somehow better than capitalists is naive and always ends the same way.

@moffintosh @ashiisbest @PinkWug exactly for that reason, free market theorists suggested that the people could control it using boycott but failed to account for the fact that people can't cooperate altruistically when it's inconvenient for them and except for really extreme cases boycott just doesn't work. It's a fun case because it's theoretically fully possible but realistically impossible and shows that both "truly free" market and non market based economies fail for the same reason; it's especially fun to see anarcho-capitalists and all manner of socialists and communists argue using the exact same "they actually can cooperate altruistically but we haven't tried well enough yet" argument.

As for the child labor, the US manages to combine the flaws of free market with the flaws of authoritarian bureaucracy and is not a good role model for nearly anything.

@thatguyoverthere @thor also editing analog film is extremely limited and usually tedious so for many uses it still needs to be digitized, losing all advantages of analog version.

@moffintosh @PinkWug it was still proof that the common people have more power working together than any of the scary evil rich entities. We can control the market, we can shape it however we want, we are a key cog in the machine without the cooperation of which none of the "rich elites" can do crap. The problem is that it requires cooperation and we're generally awful at cooperation. This means a truly free market capitalism doesn't work well and needs at least some regulation, but it also means that all non-market-based systems that are based purely on altruistic cooperation instead of competition and cooperation can be thrown right into the trash where they belong.

@PinkWug anti-capitalists: there's more of us than them we can overturn the system if we work together
also anti-capitalists: boohoo my personal market power is so much smaller than a super rich person's in the top 0.1% of the population

I thought the WSB saga would at least work as a proof of concept but apparently no, they just like to feel powerless and miserable.

@VD15 AFAIK its origin is this legendary SO answer from 2009 https://stackoverflow.com/a/1732454/4883264

@VD15 was that the parsing HTML with regex pasta or an independent rant?

@Moon @tk also the comments are 10/10 if you know TTGL

@Moon @tk my fav is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krXTZvkRCD4
although I think that one is second

@lore @Zergling_man @benis why would you give them that, it was obvious from the very beginning that they wanted a maximally closed ecosystem controlled by them and chose Linux only because developing their own OS would've taken way too long and be less efficient than just taking Linux and setting what is effectively an entire proprietary other OS layer on top of it.