Amikke @Amikke@qoto.org

@icedquinn you're talking about bone conductors? Usually ANC works by nullifying the sound waves in the air before they reach your bones, ANC in bone conductors is probably fighting them there, which doesn't sound pleasant.

@icedquinn @kaia @Jens_Rasmussen >Britain
I also doubt it was that simple, but when it comes to Britain no level of stupid will surprise me.

@icedquinn @kaia @Jens_Rasmussen american propaganda / stupid view on the rest of the world, Europe absolutely cares about free speech and only a couple of outlier countries limit it for extreme cases. (Like openly urging to violence, which is the case in the US too.) Similarly with religion, religious freedom is treated very seriously. (Probably more than in the US, since there it's mostly a mask to let protestants do whatever they want, including where it infringes on freedom of other religions.)

@icedquinn I'd consider it similar to bodily autonomy actually. Since it's a defense from having their bodies treated badly by parents' decisions.

@icedquinn this is a hard topic, as giving institutions control is dangerous but leaving it entirely with parents can be tragic. There are some things nearly everyone agrees on that parents shouldn't be able to ruin. Forgoing education at all is one of them, forgoing early treatment with good success rate for a lethal problem at least comes close. Leaving a child to die a painful death because a parent is an idiot and will attempt to treat cancer with MMC is not good.
Children aren't their parents' property and it makes sense that some of their rights as humans and citizens will be defended even against them.

@icedquinn children don't really have bodily autonomy, in this case it's either parents or doctors overriding it. Children are people that shouldn't suffer from more stupid decisions of their parents, so this is in line with the rest of how they're treated.