Shout out to that time a long-time friend of a friend who always had a crush on me was devastated when I called her out (and ultimately cut her off) for hitting her child.

No one is going to beat their child in public and expect to not get an ear full out of me. I dont care who you are.

@freemo Shout-out for doing the right thing, facing punishment and staying true to yourself.

@AmpBenzScientist

And in private doesn't make it less evil!

Some people have wondered why (for instance) Sweden had so few (until recently) murders, compared to (for instance) USA. I think part of it is that "disciplining children" (by physical or mental violence) has been denounced for many generations, and illegal since (I think) the 1960s.

Good communities start by stopping violence against children.

@freemo

@niclas

For sure, i would call it out in private too.. In this situation she had done it in public and a bunch of people int he resteraunt gave her shit.. she came to me to complain how she was "disiplining" her kid in public and how she got in trouble.... this was when i learned she hit her kid and i lost it. I didnt see the actual abuse, she was coming to me to tell me how she was "unfairly" criticized for hitting her kid. My response was "good, they should have criticized you, your lucky thats all they did, stop beating your child"

@AmpBenzScientist

@realcaseyrollins

Does it matter? The long-term trauma in the child is not so much "amount of pain", but the betrayal of the parents, who are their only source of protection, love and comfort.

@AmpBenzScientist @freemo

@niclas @AmpBenzScientist @freemo I get that to a degree, but I’d argue that something very small like a singular, relatively gentle smack on the hand of a small child isn’t anything to be particularly worried about, depending on how and why it’s done.

@realcaseyrollins

A gentle smack ont he hand that doesnt inflict much pain is a non issue.. I wouldnt even call that a spanking, thats just a gesture, I'd do that with my friend if he tried to steal my food :)

@niclas @AmpBenzScientist

@freemo @niclas @AmpBenzScientist I would too, if I had better boundaries 😂

But I think that would be a spanking in its best form, IMHO.

@realcaseyrollins

For me to qualify as a beating (including spanking) it needs to inflict some level of pain and suffering as a learning tactic.. if its just physical contact but doesnt raise to the status of "pain" then i wouldnt say it qualifies.

@niclas @AmpBenzScientist

@freemo @niclas @AmpBenzScientist What would be some good alternatives to spankings for younger children? I’d be more apt to condemn all spanking if I knew of some good alternatives.

@realcaseyrollins @niclas @freemo Tell them to get ready for pushups until they can do no more. Exercise has a positive effect on behavior and they learn the basics of rechanneling their emotions.

@AmpBenzScientist @niclas @freemo I’m not sure how I feel about this one. I might not want to associate exercise with punishment. Or it could backfire if they like to exercise.

@AmpBenzScientist

And by applying basically logic that means pleasure is weakness entering the body.... bring it!

@realcaseyrollins @niclas

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