ELI5. There is only 6% death rate on deaths solely attributed to COVID-19?
Comorbidity is way higher.
@EVoCeO
Millions of people have more than one preexisting condition. I myself have hypertension, which makes me predisposed to severe symptoms of COVID.
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So? In order for that to be even remotely useful you'd have to first show what percentage of the general population has no comorbidities with COVID-19 in the first place.
Even then it tells you very little about how concerning the disease would be for a healthy person without comorbidities. Consider the following hypothetical to understand why.
Presume there was a disease that killed 10% of people who are healthy and 90% of people with comorbidities, and those comorbidities were common. The end result would be the percentage of people who died and had no comorbidities out of everyone who died from the disease would be very low despite the fact that the percentage of healthy people who die overall from it is still very high.
Here's what I don't know. I've been told that risk factors aren't documented as a cause of death. Is that right? If someone with asthma or hypertension or whatever, died with covid, would asthma or hypertension actually be listed as a cause of death?
I know locally that medical providers are paid higher reimbursement rates of their patients died with covid, and a friend who is a support at an area sheriff has been on the scene of the deaths due to violent crime that get documented as covid deaths. We get more of what we incentivise, which I think leads in this case to bad data that's easy to not trust.
@SecondJon
If not for COVID, the vast majority of those who died would not have died.
COVID attaches to ACE-2 receptors in the lungs. Certain diseases increase or are caused by higher than average receptor density. However, it's not the receptors that cause death, but the virus that attaches to it.
@EVoCeO @freemo
I understand the assertion, my questions were about the quality and contents of the data.
@Demosthenes
I also wonder if it's still true that nicotine is preventative, and if so, why aren't cigars or pipes being prescribed (due to their significantly lower risk of other health impacts compared to cigarettes).
@SecondJon
If nicotine is preventive why on earth would thry prescribe cigars or pipes.. they would prescribe nicotine inhalers or gum.
@Demosthenes @EVoCeO
@freemo
Because they have class? :)
@Demosthenes @EVoCeO
There is an old surgeon General health study that, is I recall correctly, showed that pipe smokers lived longer than people who were non smokers. Not sure if there's equivalent studies about vapes or nicotine gum.
@freemo @SecondJon @Demosthenes This is an interesting question. Would nicotine inhalation have a greater impact on the virus since the nicotine would go straight into the alveolus? Or does it matter since it ends up in the blood stream?
Not really sure, I doubt we are even all that certain nicotein helps at all to be honest.
I wonder if an objective study of the studies of studies would be more confident in face masks or nicotine.
Maybe Trump can take the opposite position and be more Churchillian at the same time - Biden with his face covered, Trump with a cigar.🤣
Using both may double our chances of health. Off to make a medical purchase at the local tobacconist. 😂
@freemo @SecondJon @Demosthenes only cuz you don’t have any comorbidities!! But I agree. So will I.
@EVoCeO this sums it up pretty good.
https://youtu.be/P0y6M-N8wOE