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Serious questions about webhosting

Please boost.

I am looking for webhosting to play with a bunch of installations for exploring software development & coding ideas, not public interaction at this time.

Will.install Mastodon and Wordpress, plus likely Pleroma, Friendica, Matrix, Discourse & Git.

Very small data volume & storage, but multiple domains, websites & email addresses.

Could you help me with choosing dedicated/cloud/vpn and selecting a webhost. I would prefer dedicated if I can afford it.

I am familiar with Cpanel & PHP., and I have run WikiMedia & Wordpress sites, 10 years ago.

OR, if you are interested in similar ideas, we could make a hosting relationship.

@EubieDrew

You did specify approximate minimal requirements, but I don’t see what you want to optimize for. Cost? Ease of tinkering? Ease of use while avoiding tinkering? Something else?

Have you considered hosting it in your office/kitchen/…? Why/why not?

@robryk

I have not set physical location. Ease of tinkering, code dev.

@EubieDrew

With some amount of projection: I think ease of tinkering is maximized if you basically get an x86_64 VM and manage Linux (I assume) that’s running there yourself.

I’m not sure why you prefer dedicated machine over a VM (or did you mean over shared hosting?). VMs are much cheaper and for small experimental things not much worse, if at all.

When looking at VM providers pay attention to how they charge for network throughput. Charging for it is quite common (as opposed to charging for “an X Mbps link upstream”, for some definition thereof). Charging more for traffic outward is also common. Sometimes this can dominate the price of the whole thing.

I have a VM at Hetzner that costs me on the order of magnitude of $5 per month. (If you wanted to run all the things you described you might need more RAM and thus pay 10ish$/mo? I’m not sure.) It works, the network traffic accounting is reasonable, but I haven’t tried the competition.

One thing that does not meet your requirements for hosting (it’s shared hosting only), but (a) might be a good place to use to register your domains/set up DNS/set up a small static site for w/e reason/… (b) rubs me in the correct direction as far as the way they treat customers go[*], is nearlyfreespeech.net.

Lastly, the hardest thing of all that you’ve described is hosting e-mail. You might wish to know that there are many hybrid approaches to e-mail hosting (e.g. proxying outgoing mail through someone who can authenticate “you” and trusts “you” enough to proxy).

[*] the concept of “we don’t run loss leaders”, “let the user decide what kind of security against them being impersonated they want”, …

@EubieDrew

BTW your post is unlisted, so it doesn’t appear is “global” timelines. I’m not sure if you intended that.

@robryk Unlisted intentionally to stay in my tech bubble somewhat.

@EubieDrew Oracle Cloud their free offering is unmatched in terms of cloud compute resources (CPU, RAM. storage.. etc.)

@EubieDrew for tinkering with many different things, I personally use e.g. hetzner to spin up small per-project VMs - that keeps the projects cleanly separated from each other, and puts you in a place where you can easily start again on a particular project - either throwing away what you did before or still keeping it online, on its original VM.

(I also have a bigger machine running kubernetes but I wouldn't recommend that for tinkering)

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