@peterweyand What has a commercial party like an ISP to do with this 'free speech' which applies to the government?
@trinsec @peterweyand ⬆️ This.
The constitution protects ISPs right to disassociate with speech they find objectionable.
@LouisIngenthron @trinsec @peterweyand so if an ISP wants to not host people of Native American descent for example, you must be OK with that then?
Of course your not. There are discrimination laws. The only way not to discriminate is to host everyone, as long as no laws are being broken.
@obi @trinsec @peterweyand Anti-discrimination laws are born of the 14th amendment. Rights must be balanced against each other, and equal protection for things like race is important.
But your claim that "the only way not to discriminate is to host everyone" is nonsense. You can absolutely discriminate legally for many non-protected reasons, the most important of which is opinion. If I don't want Nazis in my business, for example, I have every right to ban them.
@peterweyand @LouisIngenthron @trinsec but she is pretty fat....
@peterweyand I agree with this. @LouisIngenthron @trinsec
@peterweyand @obi @trinsec Lol, you're arguing against points I never made. Good job.
@obi @trinsec @peterweyand Again, rights have to be balanced in that situation.
The baker can't refuse to sell a couple a wedding cake on the basis of their sex, but the couple also cannot compel the baker to customize the cake with a message he finds abhorrent.
@peterweyand valid argument. To me, ISP banning would be the same as the Water Department/Power saying "We aren't going to give him our water supply, did you hear what he said last week? Blacklist him, we don't need his business." @LouisIngenthron @trinsec
@peterweyand Yeah, personally I think it's all blown out of proportion. If you don't like what someone is saying, just block or mute them. Not a big deal. Banning starts at the "extremes" and next thing you know any person who doesn't fall inline to governmentally accepted sheepish norms will lose their internet, banking, water, power, and life @LouisIngenthron @trinsec
@peterweyand @obi @trinsec Towns are governments. ISPs are not governments.
Also, your definition of "common carrier" bears no resemblance to what that term actually means.
@peterweyand @obi @trinsec ...it's not semantics. It's the basic definition.
@peterweyand Did you lose the thread? I was calling you out for your made-up definition, not the other way around.
@peterweyand You're doing a very poor job of it.
@LouisIngenthron You are right, ISPs are the guard shacks on the road leading to the town square, heavily controlled by the government. "we aren't barring you from the town square" but good luck getting in, and past our guards on the only road to that town square. @peterweyand @trinsec
@peterweyand 😂 I knew what you meant @LouisIngenthron @trinsec
@peterweyand Easiest way to check is just thru a VPN, same country server, but you may have already did that, can't remember @LouisIngenthron @trinsec
@peterweyand whoamI just shows the current user of the shell @LouisIngenthron @trinsec
@peterweyand I'd have to disagree with that, but I'm not here for the fights 😂 @LouisIngenthron @trinsec
@LouisIngenthron @trinsec @peterweyand Ohhhh. So you are of the traditional right wing perspective. So you would side with the bakery owner, who didn't want to put a personalized message on a gay couples cake then?
Or are you just a hypocrite that thinks you should only be able to discriminate legally on issues you find important?