Parienve @Parienve@qoto.org

@mc
Clarification: for some (most?) programming languages, the main motivation for not allowing implicit multiplication might actually be to simplify parsing, with preventing ambiguity being more of an added bonus.

@mc
Thanks for that link. The real answer is that, although PE(MD)(AS) does require explicit multiplication and division to have the same precedence, it does not define the semantics of *implicit* multiplication. As your linked page mentions about halfway down, there are two interpretations in common use. Any ambiguity from this should be avoided by using explicit multiplication. Most programming languages enforce this by disallowing implicit multiplication at all times.

My guess is that Casio is using PE(MD)(AS) correctly, and is using the "algebra class" interpretation (i.e. implicit multiplication has higher precedence) to make that model of calculator more useful to algebra students.

Meanwhile, the Android calculator would naturally follow the "elementary school" interpretation (i.e. implicit multiplication is the same as explicit multiplication) to appeal to a more general audience.

So, both calculators are correct for their intended purposes.

@freemo
Agreed. I've seen such forms used to bully people out of what may have otherwise been good-faith discussions.

@freemo
I went with ad baculum, because coercion isn't an argument. There are four lights.

@mc
Being charitable to the Casio, I suppose it's possible that the multiplication is only getting higher precedence due to being implicit, i.e. such that "a / bc" is "a / (b * c)" and not "(a / b) * c". I could maybe accept that, as long as "a / b * c" is correctly interpreted as "(a / b) * c". However, I wouldn't ignore the possibility that the Casio is actually giving higher precedence to multiplication in general, which is what I'd be more worried about.

@twotwenty
That's fair. Honestly, I always saw Signal as kind of a compromise, due to their reliance on Google Play and phone numbers.
@Snowden

@matrix
What would the inverted centrist be like in this version?

@alexandra
But you could write one for Waterfox or Palemoon.
@vanillacherry

@twotwenty
Personally, I'm not completely against keeping the details of anti-spam server config secret, as long as the presence of this configuration is disclosed. Signal has always treated its own servers as untrusted anyway. But, I'm concerned that non-spam bots could get blocked. #botsrights
@Snowden