What bugs me about these rants is that if he's right, and ATProto is unnecessarily complicated for no good reason, then surely there's nothing to worry about for people who like the ActivityPub ecosystem.
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Fucking Christ the @protocol is the most obtuse crock of shit I've ever looked at. It is complex solely for the sake of being complex and still suf...
@atomicpoet @davidgarywood I haven't. I'll look into it!
@atomicpoet @davidgarywood Typically something a lot like the feeds in most commercial social media apps. The right balance of
- stuff from folks I intentionally follow, with some adjustment to balance out differences in how often people post
- stuff I might actually be interested in discovering
- the zeitgeist
I think the strict reverse chronological default Mastodon feed just doesn't do it for me.
@davidgarywood @atomicpoet to be honest, algorithms is a big missing piece of Mastodon for me. I just don't want to be beholden to one billionaire's algorithm.
@trisweb makes sense!
@trisweb I don't necessarily disagree, but why?
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When you write hashtags that contain multiple words, make the first letter of each word a capital letter, for example #DogsOfMastodon. This will make the tag readable to blind people.
Blind people use the internet through screen reader apps, which read text out aloud. By putting a capital at the start of each word in a hashtag, you are telling the screen reader how to say the tag correctly.
In the non-techy world this is generally known as "CamelCase".
(Techy people may call it PascalCase)
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For clarification, folks, this means that Calckey is the first ActivityPub platform (AFAIK) that will let you migrate your entire social graph (followers AND followings) from one ActivityPub instance (whether Mastodon, Calckey, Misskey, or other). You still have to export from one and import to the other, but that's a simple thing (and will probably be automated soon)..
cc @Tchambers @atomicpoet @mmasnick @jeffjarvis @davetroy @scafaria @davidslifka @elipariser @dangillmor
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You asked for it, and it’s coming. Quote posts, search, and groups are on their way. In the meantime, check out the new onboarding experience launching today. https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2023/05/a-new-onboarding-experience-on-mastodon/
@Popehat it's wild to me to see this happen time and time again. I'd like to think I'm not built that way, but I wonder if it's a basic human vulnerability.
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Also: you know the cartoon where the dude turns into a Nazi because people called him a Nazi? Don’t be like that. Some people who hate the bad-faith shitbirds will also hate you. Every movement has assholes, narcissist, and dramatics. Deal with it and focus not not being a bad-faith shitbird.
@Pat Also frankly, starting from scratch, Bluesky has been able to start a small-scale community that a certain group of people have found more fun and welcoming than Mastodon. They have the opportunity to try to figure out how to scale that, although that will probably be tougher than the protocol challenges.
@Pat Frankly, I do think AT Protocol might have a better shot, simply because they had the chance to learn from ActivityPub and aren't burdened with legacy protocol.
@Pat I would love it if the Fediverse had a better story for identity independent of hosting. I don't think Bluesky is going to succeed if they don't deliver on federation and experience at scale. I don't know whether either network is going to change in the way that I hope.
@justin @orta the main reason is that I've felt the story for identity on ActivityPub is lacking in a way that AT Protocol improves upon. This might seem small to some, but I don't think it's a small deal. True sovereignty from one's host depends on having an independent identity from the host's control.
But that's not just good from the user standpoint. It also means the network can have a better onboarding story, because your choice of onramp to join doesn't lock you in in any way. That removes one of the biggest pain points cited in the Mastodon experience.
This has been on my mind since early in my experience here
Could the #fediverse potentially migrate to AT Protocol? Aside from a different namespace, what would prevent this from happening, from a technical standpoint? Are there places where ActivityPub is more capable?
I realize that there isn't yet a fully baked AT Protocol, so it's possible no one knows the answer for certain, but I'm interested in thoughts.
@Pat It's certainly possible that decentralization in AT Protocol is never realized, in which case, Bluesky would be another centralized service.
But if you can entertain the assumption that AT Protocol opens as planned, I don't understand what you mean. For-profit Fediverse hosts exist already. How would that be any different?
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A lot of people don't know the difference between capitalism and ... having markets and shopping and little coops and companies in non-super-essential economic sectors that operate independently.
Markets existed before capitalism and will exist after.
@futurebird one useful distinction I've heard is between private property and personal property. The two things are often conflated in a deeply ideologically capitalist society. But when you think about it, it is kind of weird that nearly everything that can be commoditized is ultimately owned by individuals, perpetually, to the exclusion of EVERYONE else.
@Pat Not sure if you're aware, but Bluesky is built on a federated social media protocol called AT Protocol, which is basically meant to supercede ActivityPub. Now it's true that today, there is only one host in the federation, which is Bluesky, but I'm pretty confident that it will soon look pretty Fediverse-ish.
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