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@icanbob @mackaj For anything that works on geologic time scales this is fine, but our children and grandchildren have more urgency that that.

Happy #LaborDay everyone.

Let me take this small space to remind everyone that wages are to wealth as weather is to climate.

The fact that someone would pay me 3x what I paid for my house does not in any way change the utility of my house for me, but it does triple my wealth.

@georgetakei Please also remember all those working retail jobs today. They are working so you will have places to go and things to purchase on your day off.

@KimPerales I follow the #EV hashtag on Mastodon and I keep seeing links to "[Stop the EV jobs bloodbath](https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/08/30/dlmm-a30.html)" It really seems like someone is trying to pitch the idea that the EV transition is bad for labor. What I can't figure out is if this is from the UAW members themselves or Big Oil trying to co-opt the labor movement to slow down EV production.

@icanbob There are no viable solutions to the climate crisis that do not account for consumer costs. This is an economic crisis and we must consider the economic impact of proposed solutions.

@mackaj This is precisely my point. Fossil fuel companies hold out the bright future of "blue hydrogen" as a way to try to keep their product in the transportation sector, but today, and over the next 10 years when reducing atmospheric carbon is the most critical, hydrogen will be no better than gasoline in terms of carbon output.

@Melpomene@erisly.social

Comments from a Native Californian

California is good match at the state level. Understand that it is a large and diverse state and that the central valley is not generally LGBTQ friendly or climate forward - though of course there are many allies there as there are in other majority conservative areas.

The San Francisco Bay Area is wonderful, but expensive. It depends on whether you can get one of the high salary jobs in the area. Kind of a rough employment market in the Tech sector at the moment.

LA is enormous (even people from NYC find it overwhelming) If huge urban centers are your thing there is a place for everyone in LA. Just understand that while the Bay Area is politically and culturally Homogeneous, LA is packed with communities of every strip and creed. No matter who you are "your people" are there, but so is *everybody* else.

California has some great "small cities" and "college towns." Eurika/Arcada is an enchanted place, but isolated. I lived in Sacramento for 19 years and my only complaint was that it was too big for this country mouse. Davis, Santa Barbara, and San Luis Obispo should be on your list if you like college towns. San Diego has nice weather, but IMHO is not worth that price of admission.

Also do you have school age children? California's public education system has some real quirks, and there are some places that while otherwise awesome, have some of the most troubled public schools in the country.

@Melpomene@erisly.social https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFcYY5Zrv-o

If #EVs are less complex and take less labor to manufacture, why is that a problem? It sounds like a better product to me.

@WillRobinson carpenters, plumbers, electricians, contractors, and auto mechanics are all looking at this and shaking their heads.

@erinwhalen The fossil fuel industry seems to have adopted the strategy of denigrating alternative technologies. I'm seeing the same thing happening in the #EV space.