@freemo @arteteco @Surasanji rules on the front page have changed, it's not a anymore:

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Can you please remove the from the rules? On other instances SJWs use these rules to silence everyone they disagree with. I don't care if being a freespeech instance gets you blocked from other bad instances. Mastodon is open, we need instances that aren't controlled by SJW trolls. People registered here, because they want to escape

@dialyzer

Also I'd like to point out in terms of censorship banning or asking people to take down posts (or doing it by force) is very very rare. Unless you are explicitly screaming hateful things at people and plastering swastikas all over peoples walls, or calling people racial slurs because you hate their race or whatever, then your good.

Since day one we have always had just one rule. Be kind to others, as long as you do that we dont censor based on opinions. That is still true.

In practice I suggest you focus more on looking at who we ban than a list of rules. Generally have you ever seen us ban someone that you felt was an overstep of power?

Perhaps what we should do is just be more transparent about who we ban. Post it publicly so you can see for yourself if you feel the level of moderation is appropriate.

@arteteco @Surasanji

@freemo @dialyzer @arteteco 99.9% of the bans I've done are from advertisers. I can only think of one or two times we ever banned or silenced anyone, and it was entirely for the reasons listed above.

This is a community, and if one member is damaging to the community as a whole we request they step it back. If they continue, we have to move forward.

How we move forward, though, could perhaps be a bit more clear and transparent and I'd be happy to open up the moderation process a bit to the community at large.

@Surasanji @freemo @arteteco Thanks for the replies. I see you don't ban many people. It's cool that you warn people before banning them.

I come from platforms where moderators ban everyone without reason. On other instances people are really hostile against everyone who don't agree with SJW views. That's why I'm a bit scared of rules mentioning "hateful speech".

But I think this instance is fine based on what you all said.

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@dialyzer @Surasanji

I agree with everything @freemo said. I'd just add that federating is a delicate issue, you want freedom of speech, but also other instances to not block you, as that is crippling.

You want people to express themselves freely, which also means not be harassed for every post just because. And also, you want them to reach other people, that means not go into some block list (which is where many free-speech instances go).

Where is the line between hate and reasonable passion? How do you evaluate freedom?

It's very difficult to say, and I think we are also figuring it out as we go along.
So far having a very human approach (trying to solve everything by talking to people, instead of direct block) has proven to work, even if it's more time consuming. Can't say we are perfect though, and we like other users to chip in their thoughts.

I wouldn't know about making ever ban/silencing public... wouldn't want to create any feeling of public shaming or such... but maybe it wont' happen.

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