today I started a list: things I'll do when I'll have a lot of money.

I understood how used I am to being so close to poverty when I wrote stuff like a 20 bucks bluetooth speaker and a set of screwdrivers.

@arteteco the difference between a rich person and a poor person is that a rich person spends most of their time trying to think of ways they could spend/invest money they don't have yet, a poor person thinks up ways they will spend money they don't yet have :)

Though I think this applies a bit farther above the poverty line than you are dealing with too. Obviously you gotta cover the basic needs first. but someone told me that once and it stuck with me.. how you spend (in your head) the money you dont have yet says everything about your financial future.

@freemo @arteteco Well golly. I just became rich by thinking about how to invest money I don’t have! Isn’t the power of positive thinking great? I bet my life will totally turn around now, thanks to your wise advice that people are only poor because they choose to be.

@cy

Thats just pure hyperbole and not really what was said at all. Obviously simply having a thought will not fix the problem. However patterns of thinking reflect patterns of action. How you plan to spend money you don't yet have is an indication of how you will spend that money when the time comes that you do have it. Thoughts alone may not get you from rags to riches, but when those thoughts represent your financial plans for the future or in general then absolutely and of course it will be an indicator of financial success to some degree.

With that said there needs to be more than just positive thoughts and there are absolutely external factors that may work for or against you as well.

@arteteco

@cy

And just to be clear **you** are the only one who made teh utterance that poor people are **only** poor because they choose to be.

What I did imply, however, is that you have some influence over your financial situation, at least normally. Which is a very different statement.

@arteteco

@freemo @cy @arteteco
In 1933, Money (gold and silver) was banned, and with it went common law (because there was no way to enforce the law without actual money). In it's place came global bankruptcy and war scrip in the form of Federal Reserve Notes. The concept of an FRN is "two signatures on a piece of paper == promissory note == negotiable instrument". The government/FRB/IRS/DTCC since 1933, as there is no such thing as real money anymore, has agreed to discharge all your debts if you submit the appropriate 1040V(oucher) and an amended 1040A to the IRS' CID for proper settlement.

So yes, poor people are only poor because they choose to not learn how to not be poor. The information is widely available, but nobody learns how to do it.

@anornymorse @freemo @arteteco @cy > as there is no such thing as real money anymore

and there's no such thing as true Scotsmen since 1601