today I started a list: things I'll do when I'll have a lot of money.

I understood how used I am to being so close to poverty when I wrote stuff like a 20 bucks bluetooth speaker and a set of screwdrivers.

@arteteco the difference between a rich person and a poor person is that a rich person spends most of their time trying to think of ways they could spend/invest money they don't have yet, a poor person thinks up ways they will spend money they don't yet have :)

Though I think this applies a bit farther above the poverty line than you are dealing with too. Obviously you gotta cover the basic needs first. but someone told me that once and it stuck with me.. how you spend (in your head) the money you dont have yet says everything about your financial future.

@freemo @arteteco Well golly. I just became rich by thinking about how to invest money I don’t have! Isn’t the power of positive thinking great? I bet my life will totally turn around now, thanks to your wise advice that people are only poor because they choose to be.

@cy

Thats just pure hyperbole and not really what was said at all. Obviously simply having a thought will not fix the problem. However patterns of thinking reflect patterns of action. How you plan to spend money you don't yet have is an indication of how you will spend that money when the time comes that you do have it. Thoughts alone may not get you from rags to riches, but when those thoughts represent your financial plans for the future or in general then absolutely and of course it will be an indicator of financial success to some degree.

With that said there needs to be more than just positive thoughts and there are absolutely external factors that may work for or against you as well.

@arteteco

@cy

And just to be clear **you** are the only one who made teh utterance that poor people are **only** poor because they choose to be.

What I did imply, however, is that you have some influence over your financial situation, at least normally. Which is a very different statement.

@arteteco

@freemo @cy @arteteco
In 1933, Money (gold and silver) was banned, and with it went common law (because there was no way to enforce the law without actual money). In it's place came global bankruptcy and war scrip in the form of Federal Reserve Notes. The concept of an FRN is "two signatures on a piece of paper == promissory note == negotiable instrument". The government/FRB/IRS/DTCC since 1933, as there is no such thing as real money anymore, has agreed to discharge all your debts if you submit the appropriate 1040V(oucher) and an amended 1040A to the IRS' CID for proper settlement.

So yes, poor people are only poor because they choose to not learn how to not be poor. The information is widely available, but nobody learns how to do it.

@anornymorse

I have no clue what you are talkin about, I'll give that a look tomorrow, it's getting late here in Italy

@cy @freemo @jeffcliff

@arteteco

I blocked him a long time ago.. he usually just trolls and mentioned random nonsense.

@anornymorse @cy @jeffcliff

@jeffcliff

not sure why he would be spreading "freeman nonsense" or why anyone other than me could even do that, but since I cant see the post I wouldnt know what your talking about anyway.

@cy @arteteco @anornymorse

@freemo i think it started with
> dude starts doing financial planning
> discussion ensues about why his form of financial planning is lower class
> dude suggests that people are poor because they choose to be
> details are requested
> dude suggests freeman nonsense about how you can magically not be poor
> dude provides non-link to some supposed canadian law
> you see responses as random parlophantome no-context post because he's blocked you in the past
> you are here
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@jeffcliff Ahh I see now how you got confused.

No I wasnt refering to his responsponses in this thread as random. As I said earlier he has been blocked for a long time I cant see his posts at all. I was saying the reason I blocked him (months ago) was mostly due to the fact that he just goes around trolling people and trying to annoy them with random spammy bullshit.

I was not refering to his comments in this thread as random as I cant actually see his comments in this thread. Only reason I knew he was commenting at all is because he started getting tagged.

Also the other part you got wrong was that he blocked me in the past, he never did. I blocked him, and he still is.

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