I'm not sure how to deal with this. Even just 1 hour on the computer seem to drain all my energy out, I can't even wash the dishes afterwards.
Today a did a full day without and I felt alive after days... does someone else have the same problem? How do you deal with it, especially if you have to work with the computer?
@freemo Not sure, I've always had this problem but it comes and goes... It helps if I use glasses and take frequent breaks, but still even when I take a break I feel like I only want to nap. It gets stronger when I multitask, but even with a single task, glasses and all I still feel so very weak
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@arteteco so it probably isnt about the internet or the content and more about the screen itself? Is it an issue if you just use a comptuer to watch movies?
@freemo I use redshift to tune down the blue, and my glasses have blue color protection or something... it may be the screen, I'll try to pay closer attention to it. It's a good question, I'd say that a movie impacts me, but less so. I can get back on my feet quicker. I don't often watch movies, one reason I prefer podcasts is this effect computer has on me
@arteteco A lot of people claim to have a similar issue as you. One quick probe to see if my theory as to why is correct...
Do you find you get a similar effect under commercial type lighting, specifically fluorescent tubes?
@freemo I wouldn't know, I'm not usually exposed to that light for long time. What's your theory?
It's so confusing to me that I'm not even sure if it's psychological and a problem of interacting with a pc, or a light-display problem. That's how clueless I am!
I can run every kind of experiment on myself if you have any in mind
@arteteco the theory is that it is because monitors, particularly inexpensive ones, have a low enough refresh rate that it effects you and high enough you dont see it. Its basically a flicking light you cant tell is flickering, and thus causes the issue.
Everyone I know who has the complaint you are voicing claim that is the reason for it. They bought expensive monitors with really high refresh rates and claim its no longer an issue.
No idea if its true or not, just what I hear.
@freemo That's very interesting, thanks for sharing. If I manage to borrow a good monitor for a while I'll let you know how that worked out
@arteteco yea id be curious to hear.. those people all claim flurocent lights have the same problem, which makes sense as they have the same 60 hz flicker as a monitor would.
@freemo @arteteco One very simple way to test it out would be to record a slow motion video by pointing your phone's camera to the light source, and ensure your camera app shows what's the FPS at which it captures the video. And check if you're able to see flickers and at what FPS.
Not the best way, but might help.
@arteteco The thing is refresh rate may not guarantee flicker. The persistance of a picel between refresh depends alot on the type of monitor in question... The refresh rate just tells you the rate at which pixels update, it doesnt tell you if pixels go black between updates or if they do for how long. The underlying technology of the monitor you have will ultimately determine that andwill determine if adjusting the refresh rate can compensate (in the case where persistance is long enough to be corrected by faster refresh).
@arteteco @freemo Is it eye strain? A headache?
Depending on the task you might consider trying an e-ink display, although that comes with a lot of caveats.
I personally have a lot of light sensitivity, so I keep the brightness down on my monitors and devices and that tends to help me out. Also, there is a lot of variation in brightness ranges and screen image quality; maybe consider getting a higher-resolution monitor?
Other than that, periodic breaks are always a good idea.
@rotharius
thanks, yes I usually have headaches throughout the day, and if I use it in the evening I wake up the morning after with my eyes sore. I thought that it was normal until well, 10 minutes ago when I stopped to ask if maybe it is not. Now I'm fine as I got ibuprofen and pain is gone
I'd love to get myself an eink screen, for the kind of works I do is oftentimes a good idea, but it's still expensive for my pocket...
I'll consider an higher res monitor too, if this setup can have me working 4 hours without trashing my day is worth every penny
@arteteco I find it difficult to work on a laptop for more than about 2.5 hours. Often I need to take a rest between sessions. However. I could garden for most of the day. without complaint. Yes, eventually I end up feeling tired, but in a good and positive way, despite the graft. I think there are an number of issues here, with refresh rate and colour temperature issues re screens constituting only part of the problem.
@arteteco I cycle. If I can't cycle, I walk outside.
@Downes You mean,m at regular intervals between computer work?
@arteteco For walking, yes. For cycling, I take a full day.
@arteteco not me, but my career is a computer, i work with them differently than most, from the inside out... do you know where the cause of this is?