Culture has been destroyed by allowing unintelligent people in the spaces that used to belong to intelligent people, without strict filters, white and blacklists, and tall walls, It is impossible to create a space free of stupidity, in the real or virtual world.
Used to be that all you had to do is tell the truth and people would filter themselves out.
Stick a paper saying BOOK CLUB on the door of a classroom and nobody that didnt belong there would enter, but now It's different.
bonifartius 𒂼𒄄
@lucifargundam
i'd honestly side more with @asa here. in the past it was expected that people lurked long enough and learned the ropes before they started to make any commentary.
now things have to be so "inclusive" that people (well, some groups of people) can walz in to any given project or space, declare what they want and if they don't get their way you are in for a shitstorm.
people don't want to learn things out of interest anymore, but for fame and approval.
linus gets called out for using strong words wrt bad code. guess what, it's linus project! just fork it if you think you can do it better!
rms gets almost cancelled for dubious stuff. cancelled out of his own foundation. just let that sink in.
computer environments in general see things being "made easy" for beginners. what is missed is that beginner stuff might be the 80% of the problems, but the solution makes the remaining 20% of problems even harder. you suddenly have to fight bad decisions (e.g. freedesktop.org inventions) which were made because people were too lazy to pick up a book or read manpages. the same goes for most programming languages. totes ez to write hello world, but comes deployment or packaging things are starting to suck hard.
i'm not that invested in many other cultural things, but i suppose it's the same everywhere. everything is a nirvana shirt now.
@lucifargundam using over-complicated language to express what is effectively "no u wrong" makes me cringe, and no it was not always this way, it's only been this way since relatively recently, it used to be that people would accept they weren't intellectuals because there wasn't that much social credit and other kinds of resources to gain from it.
@asa if you prefer to communicate using the shortest possible choice of words- that's up to you. However, a possible goal in having oneself implementing more verbose dialect is to better convey the underlying meaning, tones and intents behind what is being read. " No u wrong" literally does nothing to benefit anyone other than clearly put someone on a single side of whatever rhetorical fence.
@asa your misconception of the past/present is due in part of the oversimplification and generalization of specific circumstances as a means to constitute judgement of an elaborate, evolving series of quasi-aparati that affect each other in key points like a spider web.
Tldr; it was always this way, it just didn't seem that bad.