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A chart showing the signature count as a graph comparing the #rms open support letter vs the anti-stallman letter... yay the letter in support of stallman is not just winning, but it seems to be growing in support where the other letter has lost steam and stopped growing.
The link below includes the script used to generate the chart
@freemo That makes sense. The folks signing the letter against Stallman care about the open source community and it's commitment to inclusiveness and diversity. The folks signing the letter in support of Stallman are more concerned with "men's rights" or fighting "cancel culture." It would take them longer to hear about it, since they're not a part of the community, but surprise, surprise, there are more insecure men on the internet than free software advocates. π
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mens rights _are_ a thing as long as eg. men who chose to invest more time in their children than into their jobs are considered weak, as it means that it should be the womans job.
cancel culture is a problem, the anger of many gets unloaded on a single person, warranted or not. it's just lynch mobs with cyber. "down the memory hole with him!"
it doesn't even fix any problems, but silences symptoms of a fucked up society. the problems still exist, they only aren't visible anymore.
@bonifartius I'm sorry, I don't quite understand your men's rights argument... Do you mean we should abolish gender roles so that men can more easily be stay-at-home dads? I totally agree, but as far as I understand, that's not what the "men's rights" movement is advocating.
As for the "cancel culture," are you arguing that the complaints against Stallman are unwarranted? If they are warranted what would be a better response?
@pants yes, that is what i mean. there sure are different mens rights groups with different opinions, but thats the case everywhere.
i have only read either anecdotes about stallman or misreadings of his statements, i'd even say "intentional word twisting" but i can't prove that intention.
the answer isn't canceling a single person. there isn't any discussion. the cancellers are right beyond any doubt, at least in their minds. alas, no one is ever completely right.
@bonifartius and, to further iterate what imho a better response looks like: just do your own foundation. nobody forces anyone into the fsf. if you think you can do it better, do so. just because you dislike how someone behaves, doesn't mean you can rip his lifes work from him.
