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The most outrageous health claims peddled by the US' new anti-vaxxer health secretary Robert F Kennedy Jr: From 'chemicals could make you trans' to the 'dead worm' in his brain

dailymail.co.uk/health/article

I am just sharing this to highlight what is to come, so that maybe we can come up with some good responses backed by science.

I just wonder if their columist Boris Johnson who is a huge fan of Trump, and backed the idea that the Stormy danels trial was a stitch up, will still back trump who made this pick for health minister.

@zleap i don't know about the atrazine but there is a bunch of (once) common chemicals which either act as or disrupt hormones, often with bigger impact on males, like BPA and PCB. that's no conspiracy, it's why childrens products are advertised as BPA free.

almost no country does fluoridation of tap water anymore. fluoridation doesn't make much sense when there are topically applied fluorides in toothpaste where the risk of overdosing isn't as big. there was a recent us federal ruling that the epa has to regulate fluoridation of drinking water because it might have negative impact on intellectual development of children.

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While I agree, and am aware of chemicals that can mimick hormones. I am concerned about the idea it turns people trans, it seems that the news / science about these chemicals is simply being weaponised against the trans community, or probably will be given what has been discussed here before.

We need to follow actual science, so it seems that one the one hand RFK is anti-vax, and the other he talks about the above, which has science backing, it will end up with science being less trusted, which is a real danger and possibly on the agenda so they can push forward some of what appears to be in project 25.

@zleap i believe anything which might lead to people possibly requiring life long medication should be looked into. it doesn't say anything about the worth of people or their rights.

regarding vaccines, i can't say anything about his claims about the measles vaccine. i know that the polio vaccine used in 3rd world countries has repeatedly lead to polio because the virus wasn't sufficiently deactivated. that's why polio vaccines in the west aren't the oral ones anymore afaik. they still are used in 3rd world countries as they don't require as much refrigeration.

the part about psychiatric medication being of influence in school shootings also has evidence to back it up. it is known that some of these medications have very different effects in adolescents, like increasing the risk of suicide.

the more there are things which "can't be questioned" because it would be "too dangerous" (to whom?), the more people will distrust the things they are presented with - even if those are correct.

if RFK (or anyone else) has ideas believed to be wrong, they have to be properly discussed. for example: "wifi is very unlikely to induce cancer as microwaves aren't ionizing radiation. the military personal which got cancer got it because of x-rays created in the radar installations as by-product, not because of the radar-microwaves." - much better than just branding him "conspiracy theorist". people are able to look up the claims of the discussion themselves instead of having to blindly trust someone.

i'm convinced the idea that there are things which can't be questioned lead to the current reality, not the other way around. we need to be able to discuss things and science will regain trust. people started to trust science in the first place because ideas were freely discussed instead of mandated.

if a person acts in a bad way, not respecting the natural rights of others, it is because they chose to do so. not because things were discussed.

@bonifartius so

the part about psychiatric medication being of influence in school shootings also has evidence to back it up.

While this may be the case, I get the impression that some of these school shootings are by people who have been bullied and abused by others at he school, so perhaps one solution is about creating better cultures in schools where everyone feels valued and welcome and this culture includes teaching the students to respect each other.

I can understand why people snap, find a weapon such as a gun and blast former schoolmates to death for what they were subjected to, and shoot a few teachers for allowing it to happen, people can only take so much before they simply snap.

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> perhaps one solution is about creating better cultures in schools where everyone feels valued and welcome and this culture includes teaching the students to respect each other.

i wholeheartedly agree!

> people can only take so much before they simply snap.

i'm an armchair psychatrist, but one explanation i've heard for the phenomenon that anti-depressants sometimes have these effects that frightening things just don't look frightening anymore. hence the increased suicides. someone might have been depressed but when taking away the fear of suicide by tuning brain chemicals people see suicide as valid way out.

like everything these things are multifaceted and pretty hard.

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