@bonifartius

You can't really quote "a line of thought".

I don't think that it's been a significant trend on the left, or in medical science, to for instance ignore certain papers as irrelevant; it's more that, as science always does, there was a rough consensus on how to interpret a set of results that were not entirely consistent, and then there was a (very messy, again as always) attempt to make public health policy informed by the science.

Certainly there are people at all points in the political space who do not understand, or who ignore, the nuances of important science. But I don't see any evidence that it's a specifically "left" thing.

@rudyschwartz@dobbs.town @freemo

@ceoln
i won't go through news archives now to deliver the perfect quote to you, that's a losing game.

i read enough from german politicians, most from the left, who used wordings awfully close to what you'd read in days i thought long gone by. the few sane voices of the left spectrum were cancelled, like wagenknecht. those politicians now even use legal trickery to have archives of these things they said removed, as that would be a "list of enemies".

we had completely new technology roll out in less than a year. used without all the usual long term studies, still politicians - again most often from the left - touted things als completely safe. after AZ was shown to create problems, it was a totally unexpected whoopsie, except for the people who know that things can't be sped up.

other things are pushed as the truth and are used to push laws as well. the whole gender shenanigans are put onto a podest of science while it clearly is a philosophical issue, not a technical. it's not even that there is no problem, but the whole way of thought is inhumane. the left has an affection for technicratic solutions, so it's the only way they know to reason.

politics in general is corrupt bullshit, but the left manages to make it evil on top of that. your classic conservative is usually interested in the money, people on the left are out for venegance.
@rudyschwartz@dobbs.town @freemo

@bonifartius

Um, okay, I'll take your word for it.

I hope you'll also believe me when I say that I'm on the left, and I'm not out for vengeance. I hope I'm also not evil! :)

@rudyschwartz@dobbs.town @freemo

@ceoln
this is a page collecting the things which were said, it's in german though, and not very usable unfortunately: https://ich-habe-mitgemacht.de/

few show their evil until handed power. so the only way is to remove governmental power, which i never have heard anyone on the left really arguing for. even the anarcho-communist people want to round up others, at least from what i've seen.
@rudyschwartz@dobbs.town @freemo

@bonifartius @rudyschwartz@dobbs.town @freemo
Yeah, I was a libertarian once. :) But it turns out that if you get rid of government power, you end up with corporate power instead, and that's worse. Governments can, at least sometimes, be kept benign through constant vigilance and action.