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@freemo You wrote, "Conditioning also conditions the conditioner" and the idea inspired me to think
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The shifting POV in your words is a fresh twist -- a potentially useful restatement with consequences we cannot parse easily.

Rough translation?
Conditioning also
conditions the
conditioner = hoc mutat
ex assuetudine operum
intervenor
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When I read your words, my knee-jerk reaction was in Latin -- thinking about ways in which your words suggest new insight into a couple of Latin
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1. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
• Who will guard the guards themselves?
• Who watches the watchers? • Who will watch the watchmen?
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2. Qui tacet consentire videtur
• He who is silent is taken to agree
• Silence implies/means consent
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When I read, "Conditioning also conditions the conditioner," the phrase became a question for me,
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