Pretty sad to see people posting "jokes" about the likely candidate for the Democratic party in the US election.
And who is being served by those "jokes" and "memes"?
Yes, you bet, the opposition, lead by a despicable man, unqualified and unstable, widely perceived as a narcissist and worse by mental health professionals.
The "jokes" end up on some of the hash tags included in their posts, in company of assorted Twitter bot reposts here, all working for the same opposition team.
US pol is disgusting.
Don't be Played by these people.
@mewmew They will campaing in a dirty way indeed, it will be nasty.
Bidden doesn't have the nomination yet, correct, but what would happen if Bernie wins it? Another nastiness scenario, many people won't vote for him.
These preliminary salvos are already showing GOP people won't care about decency, just about damaging their opponents.
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I really dont **want** trump to win, but...
Sanders is more likely to let Trump win than Biden.
Think About it. Sanders cant even win the popular vote int he primaries, Biden is beating him out right, and thats before the super delegates even voted.
If he cant even win a majority among the neo-liberals do you really think he stands a chance of winning a majority if you include conservatives int he voting base, hell no.
The truth is Trump is an extremist in the way he presents himself (though closer to moderate when it comes to his actual policies). Anyone who is already an extreme left neo-liberal is going to support the blue ticket regardless of who it is. The only people on the fence on where to vote are going to be undecided moderates/centrists. They are going to want to vote for someone closer to moderate. For Sanders vs Trump its a garunteed win for Trump.
With that said while Biden stands a much better chance of winning against Trump one glance at the tons of videos of him "groping" little kids on stage is all one needs to see to know Biden doesnt stand a chance either.
The anti-Trump vote will vote for whoever is against Trump, whether that be Bernie or Biden. The candidate doesn't matter for winning their vote.
Bernie energizes people much better than Biden does. Most people supporting Biden now mistakenly believe that he has the best chance against Trump, and that is the only reason why they support him. Bernie polls much better among independents than Biden does. He doesn't have weaknesses that Biden does like NAFTA that allowed Trump to get Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania in 2016.
So no, anyone who is far left is NOT going to support the blue ticket regardless - there's a big "Bernie or Bust" movement. There's next to no one who would pick Biden > Trump > Bernie - maybe if you swapped Biden for Bloomberg, but if they'd even consider Trump, they would not consider Biden - he's the opposite of what they want.
I never said inning over conservatives... I said winning over **moderates** and yes you need to win them over.
The DNC lost in 2016 because they elected Hillary, the worst candidate they had since their inception.
Like I said Bernie wont win either, The DNC eliminated all the candidates that would have won already... You are past the point where you have any candidate capable of winning, same way it went down with 2016, not a single candidate with a chance.
You're making this far too simplistic. There are people who voted for Obama for change, got two terms of non-change, voted for Bernie in the primaries and Trump in the general. These are the people Bernie can win and Biden cannot and they will decide the general election.
Hillary may have been a moderate, but again she was an abysmal candidate in every way that couldnt open her mouth without lying, it cost her the election.
Like I said, being a moderate isnt enough, you have to also be a decent candidate, Hillary wasnt it.
Likewise Biden is a moderate, and while he stands a better chance than Hillary Handsy joe doesnt really stand a chance, just more of one than Sanders.
BTW I voted for bernie in the 2016 primaries, this election I will actively vote against Bernie.. So no im not sure "these are people bernie can win", I'm one of them and he certainly can't win me anymore.
Again he cant even win the popular vote in his own primaries... thats all you really need to know..
Why will you vote against Bernie? You've presented no arguments as to why he cannot beat Trump, nor for why Biden is significantly better than Hillary.
The primaries are nowhere near over, saying "I won't vote for him because he hasn't won" is a terrible argument.
I agree, he is just as abysmal.. Like i said Trump already won this election. The two possibilities for the Democrats dont stand a chance at beating him (I say this as someone who despises trump)... The election is already over.
BUT, that doesnt change the fact that Biden stands a much better chance than Sanders, even if ultimately either will loose.
>the election
Is there just one election to win? Democrats won back the House by running moderates. Whoever becomes the presidential candidate is facing unlikely odds of winning. Which candidate do think will help those downstream races more?
Yea thats not happening. No one who is considering voting for Trump as an option would even consider Sanders.
People wanted change.
Sanders said he could bring it.
He lost the primary, so he supported Trump, a candidate who also promised change.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/sanders-voters-helped-trump-win-white-house-could-they-do-n1145306
I'd be more than happy to bet on it. I usually make good money each election year predicting the outcome, I dont mind making some from you too :)
That Trump will win no matter what. You think he will loose if Sanders wins.
So the bet would be if Sanders wins primaries then I win if Trump wins, you win if sanders wins. If Biden gets the nomination the bet would e canceled since we both agree Biden will loose.
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They won back the house by a slim margin but in that same election lost significantly more seats in the senate to republicans. Since the senate is really the more powerful house of congress it was, sadly, more of a win for republicans than a loss.
The Senate went R by 2 seats despite having a very favorable election map. Governorships and the House went D by a bigger margin. The Democrats won them by running moderates in red/purple districts.
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I'll have to double check. Regardless the republicans gained strength in the house that matters most, the senate. So I wouldnt really call it a democratic victory.
@mewmew @design_RG This is simply not true; Sanders losses harshly in all the swing states, and can’t even win a primary as the progressive candidate. If you put him in a general election he’d win CA and NY and then lose all of the south and rust belt, securing a Trump win.
If we don't attack Biden, and Trump does, he will lose.
If you fairly compare Sanders and Biden, Sanders wins every time.