Erik Haugen @ech@qoto.org
Computer programmer
"From what we can tell, Haugen works at Google. So much for "Do no evil."" – Kent Anderson
Joined Mar 2023
@Jer @briankrebs Sure – we know some self-driving ride-hail cars call home for manual take-over when they are confused. But, it can't be the solution to the problem "my data connection is out". It has to be confused in some way beyond that.
I suspect it got confused by something, then couldn't call the help center for remote manual take-over. This makes the CEO's comment somewhat correct, in the sense that if the data connection was working it wouldn't have happened. But "not the whole story", since it doesn't describe the root cause of the failure.
@Jer @briankrebs It is difficult to believe "do nothing" would actually be the next failure mode, so I suggest the thing about lack of data is not the whole story. But maybe, I guess. 
@ErictheCerise @fedops @briankrebs Well, in this case, maybe not so networked. :)
(Point remains though)
@Jer @briankrebs Sure; if mobile data is out or whatever, you shouldn't expect to be able to hail a ride via the app. But the cars don't need to be blocking the street in this case. They can drive and navigate without mobile data.
Clearly this incident with Cruise was some kind of glitch. Not the first time this sort of thing has happened, either.
@JMMaok @briankrebs As the article says: "Another option: fining Cruise ... thousands of dollars for each robotaxi road blockage." <-- Then they can get back to maximizing profits.
@12thRITS @GottaLaff This might be why op included the word "proverbial". (This sentence is like the one sentence in the entire OP that I don't have a problem with. 😂 )
This is great. I don't really have a problem with Musk and Twitter/X/whatever-it's-called per se, but if they're driving people to consider open standards for basic things like this then A+.
@duviobaz @arstechnica I feel like conservatives are usually arguing about surgery and other medical treatment for *minors*, and not about adults as much. Do you think this isn't true? (It's entirely possible I'm not reading broadly enough or something.)
@evana @jhon_don @flexghost That just sounds like "going on vacation with family" (assuming they're like-minded). I'm not seeing your point.
@jhon_don @flexghost I'm all for tighter standards in this area, but I'm curious: is there any reason to think any of Thomas' decisions were different as a result of these vacations with his rich friends?
I mean, it's not like he would have voted for Dobbs or something if nobody had taken him on a luxury vacation, right?
@alienskyler @feinzer @sorrowl @7666 @apophis @freemo @meadow @winter "chance to explain himself"?
People want a little echo chamber where everyone does performative lament, they don't want to deal with explanations.
Much better reputational boost to be seen as smacking down the fascists ASAP.
Let them have their thing.
@alienskyler @feinzer @sorrowl @7666 @apophis @freemo @meadow @winter The software is named after the character in Pulp Fiction, so it sort of has to do with the clothing sense of the word, and as far as I know, and nothing whatsoever to do with the slur for disabled people. They're etymologically completely different.
It reminds me of the kerfuffle about the word "whitelist". (There's a slightly different thing going on there, granted, but still.)
@RD4Anarchy @HeavenlyPossum @mmclark @pixelpusher220 @SallyStrange
"It can be difficult for us to imagine what things might look like outside the pervasive influence of capitalism." Yeah, that's basically my questions :)
A lot of things seem better in straightforward ways with socialism, a few things like this one I'm having trouble wrapping my head around. thanks!
@RD4Anarchy @HeavenlyPossum @mmclark @pixelpusher220 @SallyStrange Oh interesting; it sounds like you are unasking my question, essentially – there would be no factories or complex industry/etc, yes?
@davidzipper US automakers make plenty of small cars? I don't quite understand you.
@HeavenlyPossum @SallyStrange @neonsnake @mmclark @pixelpusher220 @RD4Anarchy Although, it does seem like risk management is much nicer in the kind of non-capitalist systems that we're discussing here – it seems unlikely that anyone would feel compelled to e.g. mortgage their house out of desperation to save their business, which in and of itself is nice.
@HeavenlyPossum @SallyStrange @neonsnake @mmclark @pixelpusher220 @RD4Anarchy "not something at all intrinsic to production" – I feel like risk is pretty fundamental, at least in that any decision regarding allocation of resources might be suboptimal, and execution might be flawed.
To tie it back to OP: suppose I spend a month adding some awesome features to my fork of Mastodon, then launch my new instance, and nobody joins or upstreams my changes. Oops.
@dangillmor It also matters (or should matter) what Eastman *did* exactly. People like this like to talk about the Declaration and consent of the governed and all that. Which is possibly problematic exactly for the reasons the article describes. But, at the end of the day, if all he did was "hey consent of the govern mumble mumble so I filed a lawsuit (or 100 lawsuits) about counting dimpled chads" then of course that isn't a reason for criminal prosecution. IOW: if you go through the "front door", then whatever weird rhetoric you use probably doesn't matter much.
The question is, instead: are the Eastman Memos the "front door"?
@freemo @JonKramer @trinsec Yeah, I hope it's clear I see this point. I articulated it myself several messages ago, even. I think my other observation remains, though.
Computer programmer
"From what we can tell, Haugen works at Google. So much for "Do no evil."" – Kent Anderson
Joined Mar 2023
