@anornymorse Agreed, i find it silly. Libertarianism is basically any view that seeks to minimize governement. Beyond that there are as many flavors as you want really.

@freemo
> Gets called a mockingbird puppet for redefining libertarianism.
> goes ahead and redefines it *again*.

Humans need a debugger, stat.

@anornymorse I'm not sure using the same definition as has been accepted for several decades now counts as "redefining it"

@freemo
> Says same definition has been around for "several decades"
> Isn't even old enough to remember two decades.

Thanks for the laugh.

@anornymorse What does the fact that the definition is older than you matter? Or did you mean me, cause you have no idea how old I am.

@freemo 20yo confirmed.

@anornymorse Not sure how it is relevant that your 20, but i mean ok the definition i used is even older than you are then. But no, no one changed it.

@freemo So we agree that:
1) Dr. Freemo created a new definition for libertarianism, and
2) he wasn't alive in 1999?

I can't wait for your next "NO U" repsonse.
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@freemo @anornymorse this whole conversation is stupid, theres like 30 different specified definitions for libertarianism and as simply a word its majorly abstract, for example for 40 years anarcho-syndicalist have taken to calling themselves libertarian socialist to express their views on personal intersocial control that often takes place within traditional socialist countries

@a7 @freemo

I'm being flooded by 20yo's telling me about history. Help.

@a7 @freemo The best part? "Libertarian socialist" was never even a thing more than 10 years ago. And now every commie faggot tries to use it to join the Free State project, and wonders why anyone older than 30 calls them mockingbird meat-puppets.

@anornymorse @freemo it was written in a book from the 80s... dude libertarian is a really vague word... /shrug like there is a libertarian party in uk that is completely different from us libertarian, this is pointless autism, i get what you are trying to say with it. Word definition arguments are dumb, plain and simple.

@a7 @freemo A LITERALLY-WHO WROTE A BOOK. WHY DO YOU KEEP CALLING ME MOCKINGBIRD?!?!?!

@anornymorse @freemo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_socialism libertarian communism used as early as 1860s, you autistic little baby

@a7 @freemo ANOTHER LITERALLY-WHO WROTE A BOOK.

that totally disproves the notion that 20yo's that never have experienced history should probably realize they're barking Monarch Propaganda.

Remember that scene in "Wag The Dog", where they "found" an old record that matched the theme of their pageant? No, probably not. The movie came out before you were born.

@orekix @a7 @freemo Yes, show me more pictures of literally-whos. That's totally not an Authority Fallacy.

@anornymorse @orekix @freemo man, names of political parties dont define words, like democrats and republicans both work withing a democratic republic

@a7 @freemo @orekix

When was/is the first year you were/are eligible to vote? serious question.

@anornymorse
2007
@freemo @orekix

@a7 @freemo @orekix So all you know about libertarians came from you marxist professor, and your exposure to politics in the Obama/McCain era.

That's fucking beautiful.

@anornymorse
No i just dont define words based on political parties. Does tea mean minimal government with conservative social values?
@freemo @orekix

@orekix @a7 @freemo

Literally who?

@orekix @a7 @freemo if it pisses you off more, I'll happily be a nigger for this conversation.

@anornymorse
Did the defunct freedom party define the word freedom? Use some fucking thought fam.
@orekix @freemo

@a7 @freemo @orekix

"You don't like my definition of Libertarian? Check out this strawman I built!"
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@anornymorse
redefining vague words based on political parties is some 1984 shit fam
@freemo @orekix

@a7 @freemo @orekix oh, this is fantastic. When someone is called on their bullshit, they go down two paths:

1) They strawman you into a 1984/orwell comparison; or
2) they suddenly gain a psychiatric degree and express concern for your mental health.

I wonder which path you'll double-down on?

@anornymorse
Dude im calling both you and who this started with dumb for word autism
@freemo @orekix

@orekix @a7 @freemo

Yeah, it definitely pisses you off more. I'll happily accept temporary niggertry just to keep the salt flowing.

@orekix @a7 @anornymorse @gunkslinger

This is all quite amusing. I feel like gary reliving the debate in some nonsensical parody of itself:

https://youtu.be/ZITP93pqtdQ

@freemo @gunkslinger @a7 @orekix Wait. Are you trying to tell me that Gary Johnson was a libertarian?

Cos this is about to enter "opinion fucking discarded" territory.

@anornymorse @orekix @a7 @freemo
>Wait. Are you trying to tell me that Gary Johnson was a libertarian?
This is the level of Freemo's understanding of libertarianism.

@anornymorse @orekix @a7 @freemo Freemo has read Rothbard and Freidman.... So he claims.

@gunkslinger @freemo @a7 @orekix I remember being 24 and knowing everything.

@anornymorse @gunkslinger @freemo @orekix a whig isnt something you wear on your head, but refers only to british loyalist in 1776

@a7 @freemo @gunkslinger @orekix

You should give history lessons. I'm learning so much from you this hellthread.

@anornymorse @freemo @gunkslinger @orekix you and these retards should give up this autism and realize that these words you are using have vague concepts attached to them and nothing more... are conservationist focused on being conservatives?

@a7 @freemo @gunkslinger @orekix

When an aspie calls you an autist, are you supposed to be offended? Asking for a friend.
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@freemo @orekix @a7 @anornymorse
So how do you fund this government of yours without violating people's rights? What is the point of libertarianism in your mind if it does not uphold people's rights?

@gunkslinger
Depends my system wouldnt really be purely any model. But most of the ways I'd resolve that is simply to make governments opt-in.You choose what government you want to be a part of (the details behind this are complex) or no nation at all. Therefore you choose which tax/reward scheme you want as a result.

But how such a system works would take a while to deep dive on.

@orekix @a7 @anornymorse

@freemo @a7 @orekix @gunkslinger so, a *voluntary* minarchism.

That's toooootally different than what I said in my first reply.
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@anornymorse
I never claimed it to be a minarchism or even any other form of libertarianism. So no.

@orekix @gunkslinger @a7

@freemo @anornymorse @orekix @a7
>I never claimed it to be a minarchism or even any other form of libertarianism. So no.

LOL!

@gunkslinger
A minarchism, by definition, represents the state as being, you guessed it, minimal. Usually covering just the night-watch needs. I made no claim that state need be minimal. Thus minarchism does not apply here.

@anornymorse @orekix @a7

@freemo @a7 @orekix @gunkslinger

> voluntary/opt-in
> pick the government you want
> not minimal

one of these things is not like the others.
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@freemo @a7 @gunkslinger @orekix

> defines minarchism
> says he didn't ever claim it was minarchism.
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@freemo @orekix @a7 @anornymorse
So what you've just described is something called "anarcho-capitalism" or "voluntaryism". Have you heard of them?

@gunkslinger
Yes I mentioned it earlier in fact.

@orekix @a7 @anornymorse

@freemo @orekix @a7 @anornymorse Dude, take a nap.

@gunkslinger
Well if your the one repeating things I already mentioned earlier sounds like your the one that needs the nap.

@orekix @a7 @anornymorse

@freemo @orekix @a7 @anornymorse
>Well if your the one repeating things I already mentioned earlier sounds like your the one that needs the nap.

LOL! Give it up, man. You've painted yourself into a corner and trying to change the history of this discussion won't give you wings. You're just going to have to walk across your handiwork like the rest of us would.

@anornymorse @freemo @gunkslinger @Liberty4Masses

Don't blame it on kids, blame it on the Nolan Chart.