Especially in the USA but also in other countries this is the literal truth....

@zemichi I've read a lot of books, none of them invalidated this fact for me so far.

@freemo keep in mind comparing your life to fictional stories is a sign of insanity. :backfromgab:

@zemichi No, being able to derive wisdom and insight from fictional stories, and seeing the similarities when accurate, is a sign of wisdom, not insanity.

Though it is a sign of insanity to suggest that simply because someone see strong parallels in fictional stories that said person must be insane.

@freemo >Though it is a sign of insanity to suggest that simply because someone see strong parallels in fictional stories that said person must be insane.

You are absolutely insane.

Your life is not a fictional story, your circumstances are different. To believe in the parallels is to mislead yourself and cope with things you don't understand or care to figure out.

Don't worry though, you'll be in good company with the Harry Potter readers in the insane asylum. :backfromgab: (wow just like "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest"!)

@zemichi Ok, please untag me from this and future conversations, thank you.

@pschwede @freemo

Tropes wouldn't exist if they did not illicit a reaction within people. People are comparing the relatability of stories with their own mental view of the world which may not be true.

Blacks compare stories of slavery to their own circumstances while no black has been a slave in America for years.

Millennials compare everyone they consider to be evil to death eaters or Voldemort even though magic does not exist.

People compare video games, movies, and music to actual violence and teaching violence even though in media the reactions to violence is exaggerated. There's only a few people who's kill count was beyond 100. There's only a few people that have survived traumatic life threatening injuries once while media shows people to be fine after a gunshot.

At some point in your life you were told to read books at all cost as a kid but you did not understand why. Books have become this untouchable art form and some want it that way to influence your minds. People don't understand that these things are entertainment first, our real lives are usually boring. The excitement of books and media is relatable to us because it is not us and any near comparison illicits a excitable reaction from us. But where I can detach myself from video games and the extreme circumstances in those games book readers have yet to learn this because they were never told to the contrary. :backfromgab:
@zemichi @pschwede @freemo Sad that we talk about things as being entertainment above all else, but it's also true. Culture is meant to be communal, but art is now a medium of estrangement and entertainment rather than community. That comes when we start to look at art as something of its own, something for us to sit down in isolation as we allow it to present itself, rather than in the truer sense of "the art of ______" where art should be something done, not something made.

@zemichi What else is entertainment other than telling about little deviations of our current situation?

@freemo 1984 and Brave new world are masterpieces, it is a result of lifelong inward and outward reflection of corresponding authors. - Those two books cannot be summarized and are (in Taleb's measure of survivability ) . 451 is a good book but not great (imo). AHMT is a egalitarian and equalistic justice porn (again imo).

I would let me son skip 451 and AHMT but rigoursly encourage him to read BNW and 1984

@johnlitt 451 was ok. It spent a lot of time and words making a very simple (though important) point I already agreed with before reading it.

It serves a purpose in making a point in memes like this, but not really all that ground breaking in terms of the book itself.

>handmaid's tale
Ya women totally have fewer rights then men with just as many duties

@a7 No one claimed women have less right then men. Women have many social justice issues they face, men also have many social justice issues they face.

There is little need to make it a pissing contest to see who has fewer rights than the other.

@freemo that's what hands maids tale is about.

@a7 Hand maid's tale is about social justice issues faced by women. Which as i said is a valid concern. It is, agreeably, silent on male social justice issues, but that really wasnt its point anyway.

Regardless it isnt presented here to suggest any one group to be superior to others, it is presented to point out the fact that sexism towards women is alive and well just as sexism towards men is alive and well.

@freemo it's a crypto argument towards abortions, because some how their babies rights are theirs in their egotistical mind, women on average make more than men and by society are viewed as more intelligent and logical according to latest opinions.

@a7 I think you can disagree with the stance of the book on abortion and still generally want to fight other forms of sexism to both men and women.

While I understand you may like the book because you dont align well with its arguments, thats also not the point of the meme, even if it may have been a point in the book.

@freemo the book is a fanfiction of how men view women based solely on abortion, the book is trash, its message is trash, it's part of the meme so it's part of the message behind the meme.


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