🇳🇱
The original discoverer of Insulin refused to collect patents on the drug due to the vital role the drug played in saving lives. He would be ashamed of this.
@freemo That's indeed shameful.
And it's an essential, life saving drug. Huge profit motive, and the companies are getting away with it.
@design_RG I'm not sure the companies are to blame, the profit ultimately is what pays for the drug research in the first place. If they didnt have the potential to make a large profit they probably wouldnt put the risk into developing hte drugs in the first place.
Sadly I dont have an easy solution for this other than to have drug research driven more by charity and govt funding.
@freemo Insulin has been around for many years, I am assuming this product hasn't changed its composition over these 10 years? And yet the price sky rocketed.
American trade negotiators have demanded higher patent protection as part of some of their agreements negotiations. UK people are already expecting some of that when they get to the table with US after a Brexit.
There needs to be profit enough to refund big upfront costs in R&D, and especially the testing phase and approval.
Excessive profiting is non-ethical though.
@design_RG @freemo this topic has a lot to do with patents and Congress continuing to allow them. There's good info out there on what is causing a lot of these issues.
If we moderate the medical market we're evil socialist demon monsters. People are dying, but corporate profits sure aren't!
Its very complex. if we just did away with patents and did nothing else to address the problem you would quickly find new drug discoveries would become non existant. The problem is just way more complex than that. Patents just look like its a solution in much the same way that free moneyh looks like the solution to poverty. Neither really work because they fail to address the complexity of the problem
> you would quickly find new drug discoveries would become non existant
I do not believe this to be the case. The patent has long run out on WD-40, but it has only one manufacturer. (They actually add stuff to it to foil spectroscope analysis!)
Keeping the recipe for the secret sauce secret is what you probably end up with. In the food industry, at least, companies decide to patent or not strategically: for X years, you own this compound or manufacturing method, but that also means that you have to say what it is and it becomes public record, so when the patent expires, everyone else's factories are already prepared.
Your counter argument really doesnt address mine. WD-40 was originally patented, knowing that they would get a patent for a period before running out is more than enough motivation to invent.
I never said that patents needed to be made perpetual to be an incentive. They should have a limited time period, just as they do now, and that is enough to be an incentive.
The whole point is you have a period of time you make a shit ton of money, then after that you still make money (As the brand leader) but you will make much less. Sure its still worth to sell it and make it, but thats only because the patent period already covered your bills (and some extra) for the cost to invent it in the first place.
I'm familiar with the pattern, and for some things it actually works. It stems from the fact that in order to patent something you must make the details on how to make it public knowledge. That means people have a time to experiment with it and once the patent lapses release their own formulation using your idea as a starting point.
For this reason patents arent always a good choice.
However sometimes they are, it really depends on the details of what you are patenting. When it comes to medication parents are your only real option because you have to make the chemical formula anyway because, well, its a drug, as a matter of safety the molecular formular need to be shared with the community to verify its safety. Could you imagine if drug companies started to have the right not to tell you the chemical formula of the drugs you took, I shudder at the thought.
