@freemo Please confirm that Quey has a back-up strategy to ensure that users don't lose everything in case of an emergency or shutting down. -- see §2 https://joinmastodon.org/covenant
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It is important for users to
have the confidence that a
trip over the power cable or
a rogue bit flip will not erase
all of their data. Having a
backup strategy is a basic
necessity of providing a
public service
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Humblr did disappear this month. We don't know what happened, but the result is very much like the explicit circumstances contemplated in §2 -- an event "erase[d] all of [our] data."
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More significant is the fact that Humblr's relationships vanished without notice
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Humblr was a social media site; and this means that Humblr was about more than just an archive of images and words.
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Humblr was about people and the links between us which were forged slowly over time.
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If Mastodon is about "taking back control of your social media", then it means asking reasonable questions based on the Mastodon Covenant.
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QOTO is also a social media site, so these issues are timely and appropriate and prudent
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Reasonable questions about QOTO need clear and reasonable responses.
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@chikara Why are you asking me to confirm things about other servers I do not run? you need to ask the owners of those servers.
@freemo I've only asked you about this Mastodon instance.
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I was shocked when a spokesman refused to confirm that there is a Mastodon.social commitment to give users at least 3 months of advance warning in case of shutting down.
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With all due respect, this means that a core element of the Mastodon Covenant is not credible. This means that everyone who read and relied on the specifics of the Covenant were wrong to do so.
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That's a big problem.
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Although @LuigiEsq@mastodon.social spoke on behalf of another instance, he was claiming to speak on behalf of the core organizers of the Mastodon network.
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This astonishing admission opens the door to corollary issues which I have now raised with with you.
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With regret, I see that you haven't responded to my explicit inquiries about §2 and §3 of the Mastodon Covenant. Please set my mind at ease with your reply.
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Reasonable questions about QOTO need clear responses.
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> I've only asked you about this Mastodon instance.
This is a blatant falsehood. The timeline shows you've asked @freemo about QOTO[1][2], Sinblr[3], and Quey[4]. Apparently this is from simply not caring enough to proofread but then you really shouldn't expect anyone else to care enough to respond.
You're doing the same thing on multiple servers, and I don't think they appreciate it any more than we do. Actually, I'm sure they don't, because I can see that you're annoying them[5][6][7][8].
> I see that you haven't responded to my explicit inquiries about §2 and §3 of the Mastodon Covenant.
It appears they were mistaken for duplicates[9]. Significant fractions of the posts are word-for-word identical to the one he *did* answer, which at best is unnecessary repetition and at worst looks like you are deliberately spamming the timeline with copypasta.
1: https://qoto.org/@chikara/103194932276826890
2: https://qoto.org/@chikara/103195262932811017
3: https://qoto.org/@chikara/103195116062133823
4: https://qoto.org/@chikara/103195372122680388
5: https://mastodon.social/@LuigiEsq/103195944949371362
6: https://mastodon.social/@LuigiEsq/103195917423951015
7: https://mastodon.social/@Gargron/103195477821454886
8: https://mastodon.social/@Gargron/103195533864216794
9: https://qoto.org/@freemo/103195203045899014
@khird Be kind. -- see https://qoto.org/about/more
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In other words, think again. Please display your good or benevolent nature. Please try to be indulgent, considerate, and helpful.
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The core value of QOTO has to do with asking questions. Is that not precisely what I've done? Respect that core value and your mistakenly perceived annoyance will fade like fog in sunlight
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If you like, I'll be glad to respond to your post, but first, please explain how you captured any part of the of the list you made. I don't see posts in that way. I don't know how to do what you have done -- see
5: https://mastodon.social/@LuigiEsq/103195944949371362
6: https://mastodon.social/@LuigiEsq/1031
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Be respectful.
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Please accept my thanks for one of your phrases which I found to be extraordinarily helpful -- "are deliberately spamming the timeline with copypasta." But before I explain more, may I ask if the final word in the phrase "copypasta" or "copypaste"?
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Kyle, your post is a good illustration of the usefulness of questioning others to teach ourselves. Thank you.
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> The core value of QOTO has to do with asking questions. Is that not precisely what I've done?
It certainly is a value, which is why it's important to do it well. May I suggest the following pointers for improvement: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
In particular, note the following:
> Hasty-sounding questions get hasty answers, or none at all.
The lack of proofreading that led to you naming Sinblr and Quey in your questions here is the direct cause of the unsatisfactory response[1] you got.
> Being seen to invest effort in simplifying the question makes it more likely you'll get an answer.
Had you pruned your questions down by removing the copied content, it is likely they would not have been mistaken for duplicates.
> Never assume you are entitled to an answer.
Complaining that you are "shocked" and "astonished" at the answers you've been given, that you "regret" the lack of response to your inquiries, that you find the replies "evasive", etc. will be read as ingratitude for the effort others put in to assist you, for free.
As regards your other points:
> Please explain how you captured any part of the of the list you made.
I right-click the timestamp and copy link location (using the web interface) to get each link. Then I insert a bracketed number into my post, and add the link at the end with a label corresponding to the bracketed number.
> May I ask if the final word in the phrase "copypasta" or "copypaste"?
Copypasta. "Copy and paste" is a verb phrase, while "copypasta" is a colloquialism for the actual content that gets duplicated in this manner.
@khird That you for your prose, You give me specific words to use in reply. It is only natural to feel and express "gratitude for the effort others put in to assist [me], for free." It's not always easy to find words to express appreciation in an effective way.
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For now, there's no way to thank you enough for the link to "How to Ask Questions the Smart Way." I'm studying it. This means I plan to continue reading the sentences over and over. In the new year, after I've thanked you again, maybe my words will begin to take on the meaning + nuance + value which are lacking today.
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Over the course of the coming months, I hope you'll decide for yourself that consequences of your investment in me turn out to be what you intended, what you wanted, what you hoped.
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The unintended consequences are good, too; but I'd guess these are the opposite of what you're expecting.
PREMISE: The sentences
of @khird are
axioms -- unquestioned
in every circumstance I
can imagine except this
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In a narrowly-focused context, you felt compelled to offer an opinion about questions I presented @freemo. I posted three questions about QOTO.
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My questions arose from the prominently published and publicized Mastodon Covenant, and my perceived entitlement to answers flows from the same source.
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You used cut-and-paste from "How to Ask Questions the Smart Way" when you posted:
> Never assume you are entitled to an answer. -- see "Before you ask," ¶7 of 8 http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#before
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This copied sentence is an axiom, yes?
A. Oxford defines an axiom as "a statement or proposition which is regarded as being established, accepted, or self-evidently true.
B. Oxford defines an axiom in math as "a statement or proposition on which an abstractly defined structure is based."
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The Mastodon Covenant functions as an axiom defined by Eugen Rochko for the Mastodon federation and for each Mastodon instance, yes? In other words,
• the Mastodon Covenant is "a statement or proposition on which an abstractly defined structure [of the federation of Mastodon 'instances'] is based."
• the Mastodon Covenant is "a statement or proposition on which an abstractly defined structure [of each Mastodon 'instance'] is based."
• the Mastodon Covenant is "a statement or proposition on which an abstractly defined structure [of QOTO.org] is based."
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The nexus created by the gravamen of my questions, the published context for my questioning and the role of a spokesman for a Mastodon instance is unique.
RESTATEMENT: With all due respect, I do not assume anything about @khird. Any words @khird offers to me are a gift. And it bears repeating that I'm thankful for such gifts.
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However, @freemo stands in a significantly different relationship with me within the ambit of @Qoto.org. This is because, in any context of questioning about the Mastodon Covenant and/or QOTO.org, @freemo is defined by his role as spokesman for the instance.
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Do you understand the point I'm trying to make? What do you think?
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QUESTION/AXIOM? The study of Mastodon federation, Mastodon instances and QOTO.org, including questions about QOTO arising from the Mastodon Covenant, is a STEM subject.
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