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@steakwipe I already have a AR-15, its very enjoyable. Would be fun to get something else. The Ar-15 is a Nato5.56 (also .223 compatible) which is a nice caliber as a first gun for sure, but I want my next gun to be something unique, and a new caliber. The SPAS-12 is a shotgun, P90 has a much smaller caliber but holds a ton of bullets with a really cool design and look, and Desert Tech HPI is the biggest caliber rifle you can get the 0.50 BMG.. so all of these would be a lot of fun.
@freemo @steakwipe i have shooted a NATO 7,62 CETME rifle in a fire range and I didn't like it! Too much noise, and fear of hit anithing else than the silhouette. It had a big recoil, and hurts when shooting, especially in automatic mode. I didn't hit no one at all. Two 20 cartouche cartadridge!
But the most fearing experience was when i comnanded a 81 mm mortar piece squad. There were pretty big granades and those make a very loud noise and vibration when firing them.
Not everyone is going to enjoy shooting, then again not everyone enjoys cooking either. If you found the expiernce unejoyable then by all means, dont do it.
I usually find it fun and am more than happy to share the sport with other who might enjoy it.
Self-defense is really the last of my concerns, its unlikely it would ever come to that. But as a measure of last resort in self-defense it does have a place in that regard as well.
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