@rogue_tr00per I think this also illustrates why a lot of people prefer "All Lives Matter", because as a phrase it more accurately represents the intent (the middle chart).

Most people who use All Lives Matter that I personally know (I'm not one of them, though I do use Every Life Matters) have always noted that blacks have a struggle, they just felt the best way to fix any inequality is not by addressing identity politics but by directly helping people based on suffering or unfairness rather than the color of their skin. The end result is the same that those who suffer more get more help, but it is simply a better way to arrive at the solution in their mind. In that regard at least, I agree.

@freemo

I'm not a native English speaker, so sorry if this is a dumb question, but what's the difference between "every life matters" and "all lifes matter"? I mean I don't get why one could prefer one sentence to the other.

I think that one of the core issue of this phenomenon is that most of Americans (whatever their race) have no cue about how big and varied is the word.

Structural racism in 2020 is an USA issue. To European people, saying that "alm" or "elm" is a way to point to the our own inequality issues, that are not linked to race but to income. Here it's quite evident that dividing the poors into black, white and so on, is just helping the rich to further oppress them.
So when Europeans say that all lifes matter, they mean: oppressed do not divide among yourselves, but unite and fight together the oppressors!

@rogue_tr00per

@Shamar

The sentences themselves evaluate to me largely the same thing.

My issue with All Lives Matter is that there is negativity associated with it partly because it was used early on as direct opposition to BLM sometimes in a negative way I want to distance myself from.

A statement like "Every Life Matters" has less of a tone of being oppositional to BLM and rather its own independent statement. Its mostly just a choice bore out of politicking :)

I agree entirely with your assessment of how we divide people by race rather than by opportunity. What people dont seem to get is that if there are racism effects causing blacks to be more poor than whites (and I agree there are) then by addressing poverty and ignoring race you would still effectually help blacks more than whites, since they would be a larger portion of the group your helping.

So the identity politics approach simply doesnt make sense even when you take all the assumptions as truth.

@rogue_tr00per

@freemo @Shamar you just dont get it-
The reason BLM exists is because systemic racism, police brutality and murder against the Black community show over and over again that Black lives don’t seem to matter. So, a person who says ‘All Lives Matter’ is actually proving the point that Black people continue to be a second thought in bigger issues.

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@rogue_tr00per

No I get all those things, and they arent in question.. All lives matter doesnt suggest blacks are a second though, it suggests that the goal is equality. As the saying goes, all lives cant matter unless black lives matter, thus why all lives matter is inclusive as a statement, at least at face value (how individuals tend to actually use it is another matter, and why I prefer Every Life Matters, to seperate myself from how people may have used ALM int he past).

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