@Ryu

We have a great many french words we use in english, though it tends to be more common among the educated or upper class, and particularly older people. I dont really hear it as much as I used to. Some examples of french phrases that are now part of english:

* avant-garde
* carte blanche
* cliché
* crème
* cul-de-sac
* déjà vu
* faux pas
* je ne sais quoi
* liaison
* par excellence
* quel dommage
* raison
* sauté
* savoir-faire
* trompe-l’œil
* vis-à-vis
* Et voilà

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@freemo @Ryu @wiecek @L29Ah

Well those last days we did hear a lot about a "coup" (d'état). 😶

@NicolasConstant
Yeah but the pronunciation might be different cause I didnt notice.
Do you say, coupe or cou (with or without p)

@Ryu it's the same in both language. Maybe the "C" is more accentuated than we would do in French (where this concept doesn't exists) but sounds the same nevertheless.

@NicolasConstant @freemo @L29Ah @Ryu Those are called a "gallicism"! Thanks to some teacher from a decade ago for teaching me that word.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallicism

@jpeg

Only when the borrow word is used incorrect due to similarity in transliterating is it a gallicism. Therefore en masse is not a gallicism, and I suspect neither are most of the terms on that list. Though I dont know french well enough to know if any of the words on that list could possibly be misused in english in a way to allow it to be a gallicism.

@Ryu @L29Ah @NicolasConstant

@jpeg

However if i instead had said "He harassed our users in mass" then THAT would be a gallacism.

@Ryu @L29Ah @NicolasConstant

@freemo @Ryu @L29Ah @NicolasConstant yes, now that you write it I remember that's how the teacher explained it!

A good exemple would be deception. In french, déception means disappointment.

It's funny how in that case, I can see the commonality between both words. Somebody getting deceived can be disappointed.

@jpeg

Yes but deception itself isn't a gallicism unless used in english as if it were french.

so If I said "You are always letting me down, you are a deception" that would be a gallacism. However if I said "You are always manipulating people and engaging in deception" that would not be a gallacism.

In other words you have to use a borrowed word as if its definition were the same as it is in french rather than the definition we adopted for it in english. In other words the use in english of a french borrow word in idiomatic french.

Now to be clear sometimes gallicism is used far more generally than this and can be used in its most general sense to just mean "doing it the french way", but in speech we really mean idiomatic french phrases spoken in english and comprised of french borrow words

@Ryu @L29Ah @NicolasConstant

@freemo @Ryu @L29Ah @NicolasConstant yes, I remember that also.

I had to to do a presentation on that topic. I had a few fun exemples. Obviously, it's not a concept I had to use often. ;)

Have a good day

@jpeg

Indeed, its impressive you know about the term, most people dont use or know it :)

you have a great day too.

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