@zleap

I was not refering to carbon-14. I am refering to isotopes which do not appear in nature and therefore their presence is due solely to nuclear testing. cerium-141 is the most notable in this sense.

@mur2501

@freemo
By the way how did you entered into science and became a doctorate

@zleap

@mur2501

I never entered it, I was always in it, I just never left.

@zleap

@mur2501

I mean that quite literally by the way. Since as early as I could start breaking things by taking them apart I was (as my mom will be quick to tell you :) ). Since the day I was born I insisted on understanding everything in the smallest detail... that just never went away.

@zleap

@freemo
I am also quite like that
Cause in childhood I had the daring to question religion (Islam) in my mind. Soon enough found out we are slaves of our beliefs and also good & bad is just a relative meaningless thing. This is a world of chaos in order, of inequalities in equalities, a world totally based on the observer
@zleap

@mur2501

I too became a very vocal atheist at an extremely young age and maintained that until I was a teenager despite my families strong christian background. As a teenager and beyond I have no longer defined myself as an atheist but rather "a beleiver in all religious holy texts, especially the contradictions"

@zleap

@freemo
I am still not clear about my beliefs.
I think I believe in chaos and paradoxes.
@zleap

@mur2501 @freemo I think the universe is a mix of chaos and at the same time seems to have some sort of logic and order which we have not quite figured out yet, hence we have just found a so called 'beauty' quark, still lots more to discover.

@zleap

I think there is more than just physical laws tot he universe. There is a reality that all the religions of the world have close to correct just with a lot of nonsense thrown in to mask it.. but the distilled version is valid and it goes well beyond just quarks and atoms. With that said I dont feel anyone one religion is anymore closer to correct than the others, mostly.

@mur2501

@freemo @mur2501 yes the Bealtes across the universe song cites ommm which is a hindu thing, which is meant to represent some sort of background noise of the unvierse, something that we have only recently detected and yet they knew about it 100;s if not 1000s of years ago.

@zleap @freemo
Om just means vibrating your throat, you can do it with any other word or sound too

@mur2501 @freemo ah, either way if the somehow linked it to a cosmic thing they knew something

@freemo
There is more and probably we may also found out that things we believe now are false.
Though I don't really think any religions have any right or wrong idea (there is no right or wrong here).
@zleap

@mur2501 @freemo Well islam seemed to understand the earth went round the sun 100s of years before Christianity accepted.

@zleap @freemo
That's not really due to islam it's rather due to the location of where both the religions have developed.
Earth was strictly considered the centre in Greek and Roman astronomy so that also seeped into Christianity very hard as it mainly developed in Roman empire.
Egyptians, Arabs, Persians, Indians doesn't really much geocentric cultures and also their astronomers were more into observation then belief so it seeped into islam too