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@TruthAndFreedom@masthead.social forcing people to take a drug to participate in society is kinda worse than hitler in a way
@freemo do not cry us a river.
You have the option of not getting vaccinated. All good with that.
Pandemic requires everybody is vaccinated in planes, restaurants, etc. It is common sense.
We never needed "passports" like this before and its just fine.. your argument is so stupid, anyone who wants to be protected can and will just take the vaccine
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measles, tuburculosis, smallpox.. none of these required registrations or mandatory vaccination and guess what, they are damn near nonexistant in the country today... so tell me again why it is needed? Clearly the evidence in every single disease we vaccinated to date shows it is not.
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@freemo they do not mutate like this one. Besides, population used to see the effect of those diseases so they were more willing to be vaccinated.
Today's COVID19 fight is a political stance (it is crazy and stupid, but it is what it is).
So times and virus are not comparable.
Do the math. Build a model if you do not like current models. Variants will be predominant and we need all of them GONE with this version of the vaccine. We do not need a mutation resistant to current version of vaccines...
@icedquinn they are not effective but that virus mutates a lot. It is not the same that smallpox or covid.
In fact the vaccine IS effective against the 4 or 6 flu variants they choose. The problem is that each year are dozens of new variants...
Stop spreading the made up lie that the COVID virus "mutates a lot".. there is nothing remotely unusual about the rate the COVID virus mutates.
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@freemo
do you have data to support your assertion?
My assertion, you are the one asserting it is mutating and stands a greater risk than past viruses at mutating to circumvent our vaccines if we dont force everyone to take the drug now... YOU are the one who needs to backup that noise, not me.
@icedquinn @TruthAndFreedom@masthead.social
@freemo The risk with this virus is people no getting the vaccine. That could happen because lack of dosis or because political stands.
It is a completely new scenario that did not exist before with other vaccines.
No, there is no "risk" from not getting the vaccine except the risk an unvaccinated person takes upon themselves (of catching the virus).. those who take the vaccine will mitigate that risk if they want.
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There may not even be a herd immunity, which further dilutes the argument to force people to vaccinate.
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@freemo
Still we do not know when we will hit herd immunity. I am following Israel (because they are almost all of them vaccinated) and they are still not there. We will see.
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