There is something seriously wrong in the UK

I am not sure what is going on here, but how some people got to think that this is ACCEPTABLE is really beyond me.

Spiked by INJECTION: Women 'needled with date rape drugs' in nightclubs in Edinburgh and Liverpool leaving them facing HIV checks as police arrest man in Nottingham after three attacks there in two weeks

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10107543/Women-needled-date-rape-drugs-nightclubs-police-arrest-man-Nottingham.html

@zleap wow this is a new level of attempted rape/attack I havent heard before. Quite disgusting of course.

@freemo Yeah, up to now drinks have been spiked, so people became more aware, you can get covers for glasses for example, there is cctv, people are perhaps more aware / observant.

this just takes it to another level now.

Problem is the UK is WEAK and PATHETIC when it comes to handing out sentences, so people are doing this with impunity, low chance of getting caught, lower chances of getting convicted and if caught and convicted you end up with a low prison term.

@zleap @freemo they're busy prosecuting journalists for reporting muslim criminals for hurting their dignity even when the criminals were convicted of child molestation

@icedquinn

Has this actually happened?

@zleap

@freemo @icedquinn

Not sure but in Rochdale the local authority was so scared of being branded racist they didn't step in with regard to Asian gangs grooming and raping young girls.

@zleap

Not the same thing, but a concerning pattern. I will admit it is common for the news to play race politics in how they report to such a degree as to lead to absurdity.

I remember a british friend posted an article about this "racist" old white lady who was racist because she called the cops on a black guy for breaking and entering into his own home. I mean he was locked out and breaking into the home through his window. It seems a reasonable response for her to have and to assume she must have just been racist because the dude was black was laughably absurd, yet that seems to be how the news spins it quite often.

@icedquinn

@freemo @zleap usual divide and conquer crap. make some population segment politically untouchable and then go after the other's for jaywalking. makes people naturally resentful. then pivot the resentment in to a "racism" epidemic that you can solve by inserting more social policing with.

@freemo @zleap altho as a USian i wouldn't say that making jail terms longer actually helps anything. There was a whole book on the evolution of the infinite jail sentence obsessions called "Just and Painful" where the author goes in to the history of Britain trying to codify rope lashes and then people started bikeshedding over how many croppings goes to how many crimes and then they replaced corporal punishment with confinement and keep going on about the number like its some high score.

@icedquinn @freemo

We need to make prison work, as in you go in for a long time (end of ) but while in prison it must try and help that person, so 1 if they are addicted to something then help them get over that addiction

People turn to drugs to try and get out of other problems (low self esteem, low skills, lack of employment) so once they are off drugs then figure out and actually help them gain new skills etc.

Other drug addictions seem to be down to pharma companies making meds that cause addiction so that needs fixing,

Better mental heath support is also needed, esp during the current pandemic.

Come out of prison reformed, hopefully.

@zleap @freemo nobody comes out of prisons reformed. they're just storage facilities where people end up getting psychologically broken, probably injured and improperly healed, institutionalized, then abandoned back to society in worse shape than they started.

it's about as moronic and having people memorize answers for 10 years and then calling them smart.

@zleap @freemo ironically the guy who wrote that book (Just and Painful) was calling for the return of corporal punishment, since just whipping somebody and being over with it is cheaper, faster, and less damaging for the people who aren't like serial killers.

although he suggests using TENS units since it won't leave scars and can be easily adjusted to result in a 'sufficient' amount of pain.

@icedquinn

I own a relatively high power TENS and have turned it up to max.. yea its not pleasant at all but as far as torture goes its actually relatively barable.

@zleap