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As posted on Diaspora Europe on 27th October 2021.
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@iankenway I agree with the notion that binary choices are short sighted and generally wrong... I strongly disagree with the notion that capitalism is an inherently harmful form of government. In fact most things that people blame as hallmarks of capitalism are in fact by their nature a quality that is anti-capitalism. For example corruption caused by greed, when that occurs you no longer have a capitalism because corruption implies manipulation which implies you dont have a free market, which is what defines capitalism.
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I agree with Freemo. The problem is not capitalism in general but its contemporary laissez-faire, neoliberal and crony capitalist forms. In the George Monbiot article linked in Ian's previous tweet, most if not all of his proposals, including the wealth tax and the idea of public luxury and private sufficiency, are quite compatible with social democracy, and thus with some form of capitalism.
In my opinion, the meme itself is more likely to alienate than convince, because while some people will associate the use of the word "capitalism" solely with the aforementioned forms, others will associate the use with any system involving some private ownership of capital. The people who are undecided on the matter of climate change action will be more likely to have the latter association, and will be more likely to recoil at the meme than agree with it.
@mathlover @freemo @iankenway i'm going to have to read the thread, this sounds interesting. one of my main issues with capitalism - just offering this up - is it tends to remove personal responsibility from people untoward- they treat others in a transactional sense, vs a more communal sense. also- they tend to lack basic survival skills for life, if money wasn't in the picture. why "learn" when you can pay someone to do it? this is clearly bad.
Tht depends. If society cares about community then they will favor stores that are community minded. As such a capitalism where the culture of the society is communal will itself naturally take on a communal tone.
@freemo @mathlover @iankenway yes, the issue primarily there is when the body politic or law body decides to draft in favor of the governance and special interests rather than allowing people to live within safe and reasonable conditions that allay such things as community gardening, even at the expense of say grocery retail. but yeah agree. happy halloween, or some shit. :)