Why is it taking so long for the Jury to rule on Seems a clear cut case of innocence to me. I cant imagine how any other verdict is even a thought given the circumstances (which are largely agreed upon by both sides).

@freemo I'm not entirely proud of it but I've remained largely ignorant on the case and ignored all the memes. However, I am extremely proud that I got called a lieing foreign troll on "other" social media when I corrected someone's assumption that the prosecution can successfully appeal if he's found not guilty.

@b6hydra watching the video of the events mostly tells you all you need to know. The dude was running from people trying to kill him screaming "friendly friendly friendly" and only shot once he was knocked to the ground, cornered, and people starting attacking him (including at one point having a gun held to his head).

@freemo @b6hydra i saw the videos live posted but ignored the court cases (i did watch closing arguments yesterday live though.)

barnes take is they're probably arguing because of tribal lines. jury reportedly came back and started asking for copies of the self defense laws and other papers.

the tiral :blobcathammer:  

@freemo @b6hydra the tribal lines are basically (my analysis):

- kyle went to another state to be a hero, shot people including jews because he's a nazi and a murderer and nobody is allowed to have a gun unless you're a victim and he should have just been beaten up
- kyle was invited to defend property at risk, helped clean up gang signs and did medic'ing, got in to a fight, tried to run and ended up having to shoot people

* yes social media tried to argue he was an anti-semite just because one of the 'victims' had some jewish dna, this argument was folded and didn't make it to court IIRC and the ADL screened his accounts and disavowed any claims of antisemitism

* closing rebuttal literally had a prosecutor say "people get beat up sometimes" clearly arguing the state expected kyle to submit to assault or try to melee someone twice his age

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@b6hydra @freemo they tried and tried to staple "THE GUN ACROSS STATE LINES" propaganda but that collapsed in court, they tried to say the gun possession itself was still illegal but that collapsed in court and they dropped the charge, the prosecution was schooled yesterday for improperly suppressing a witness, they are really hoping to cling to an interframe they synthesized* that proves he pointed a gun at someone first.

the interframe as i call it is they ran one of those optical flow enhancers to compute a frame between frames and then argued that for this single 1/48th of a second he pointed his gun at someone (despite the image suggesting the gun changed arms, he was supposedly pointing the gun with the wrong handedness according to 1/48th of a second a computer imagined between two grainy photos) then the prosecution argued that "guns do not have handedness."

i often plan on threatening people for imperceptible amounts of time while holding the gun so it will eject brass in my face :blabcatverifiedfake:
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@icedquinn

again more or less accurate as I understand it. So agreed here.

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