@markusl
regarding the mrna/vector vaccines:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/

science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv

i just don't trust these vaccines, they feel like hybris. i'm told "mrna can't get integrated to dna", a few months later a mechanism is found, only by chance the vaccine hasn't got the right primer.

injecting mrna which let my cells produce an unknown amount of something hampering dna repair also sounds like a terrible idea.

now they plan mandates with this concoctions. of cause without having any if the inactivated virus vaccines here, like e.g. the chinese or valnevas.

i won't put the mrna stuff into me. the classic technology is proven to work. i'm vaccinated against all kinds of stuff and have no problem with that.

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@bonifartius

You have vaccine options that arent RNA. It is true RNA treatments are much newer and that might make you worry. So why not just take one of the vaccines that are a traditional vector instead?

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@freemo
vector also has the problem of being an active substance and is a quite new technology.

i just want a load of dead whole virus, if i get vaccinated. might even be better wrt mutations than the spike only vaccines as other parts of the hull are learnt by the immune system.

there are the chinese ones with WHO approval which are used in many countries, there is valneva from europe, but both wont get approval until spring next year. while the new technology mrna/vector gets the fast lane.

i have the feeling that people are pushed to get the new technology vaccines. for whatever reason.

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@bonifartius
Im not sure how you can say a vector is active. Its just a part of the outer shell of the virus as opposed to the whole virus.
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@freemo
> Viral vector vaccines use a modified version of one virus as a vector to deliver to a cell a nucleic acid coding for an antigen for another infectious agent

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viral_

i think you mean subunit vaccines which consist of hull parts.

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yes you are right i was refering to subunit vaccines
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