Me: Citizens with guns help to act as a check against government tyranny.

Them: the government has more and bigger guns than you and can kill you easily. Therefore you should let the government have your guns and take them away from citizens.

Me: Do you even hear yourself.

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@freemo From an EU perspective it's: we don't have guns, it would be dangerous if people would have access to guns.

Then they get shot by criminals, unable to defend themselves.

@xyfdi @freemo except in the EU the criminals in question are rare and mostly literal mafia members, while in the US a random hobo can rob you at gunpoint. It’s not exactly the same caliber of a problem.

@Amikke @xyfdi @freemo He didn't tell the story right. Since, in the EU, citizens don't have guns, the criminals don't need guns to victimize EU citizens. So, it's true, EU doesn't have a gun problem. They have a knife problem. They have an acid being thrown problem (not even a thing in the US). They have a violent assault problem. And they have a violent crime problem.

In the US, the "gun problem" is limited to one city gangs killing each other with guns the aren't allowed to have anyway. Get out of the urban shitholes and gun crimes are rare. However, guns prevent 500,000 to 2,000,000 crimes every year, many of those would have been violent crimes.

So, it's a trade off. And it's a good trade. Yes. More dead gang niggers from drive bys and drug deals gone wrong, but hundreds of thousands to millions less victims of crime every year.