@Amikke @xyfdi @freemo He didn't tell the story right. Since, in the EU, citizens don't have guns, the criminals don't need guns to victimize EU citizens. So, it's true, EU doesn't have a gun problem. They have a knife problem. They have an acid being thrown problem (not even a thing in the US). They have a violent assault problem. And they have a violent crime problem.

In the US, the "gun problem" is limited to one city gangs killing each other with guns the aren't allowed to have anyway. Get out of the urban shitholes and gun crimes are rare. However, guns prevent 500,000 to 2,000,000 crimes every year, many of those would have been violent crimes.

So, it's a trade off. And it's a good trade. Yes. More dead gang niggers from drive bys and drug deals gone wrong, but hundreds of thousands to millions less victims of crime every year.

@Amikke
Well not really, sort of. Eu does have less crime overall in many countries, but this isnlargely unrelated to guns. When we look at the numbers every time, historically, an EU country banned guns or made more restrictive laws than crime and homicides would almost always spike very high in the years that follow. The only difference is slowly over time they stab you more rather than shoot you, but dead is dead when you arent allowed to defend yourself.
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