@geantonicelli I have quite the family history to live up to in general onn my dads side.. there are books written aboutt my paternal lineage and its all a bit overwhelming honestly.

@freemo I guess sometimes it may be challenging to feel living in the shadow of someone else but in fact you are a part of this bright family history, everyone try their best on the own circumstances and they are very different for everyone including time. In my case I don't have any remarkable story to report in my that I am aware of, but nonetheless everyone there has their own successes to be proud of.

@geantonicelli I've done a pretty good job for myself so far :) I think by the end of it all I will have lived up to the family name :) we shall see.

@skanman There are shreds of hope? Can you point me to some of those please.

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@freemo side note: I think the CIA gets an unfair reputation. I mean like most everything they do is kept quiet, it's only when someone screws up royally that it makes the news. But what about the other 99.9% of the time when things go as planned? Nobody knows. Like when documents get leaked, there's always like 50,000 documents that get dumped, and the media finds the 1 with the screw up. The other 49,999 are boring, but that's them doing their job right.

@skanman I am no lover of the CIA or even military in general... Im very anti killing and anti war. But i try to talk about it from a neutral standpoint and my judgements of my dad in that regard i try not to do since i dont know many of the fine details.

What I do know is my dad was a good man and he tried his best to do what was right by his own moral compass. Whether I agree with that or not aside, he was trying to be a good person and that matters a lot.

@freemo I'm no lover of them either, I can't do that either, I'm just saying it's not fair that they get a bad rep based on the data that is visible. There's not much to go on. If I go by logic though, I don't think the CIA would be a fan of killing either. I've had a few conversations with my grandparents after they died, and it was impossible to get information out of them. Don't judge me, I was sad. But yeah, kind of hard to get data from a dead guy. Torture however, I'd believe that's more common than we know. And that's crap too.

I'm glad you had a good relationship with your dad, and his moral compass was great. I love my dad too, he's awesome. But I have so many friends who don't know their dads, or worse. I'll call my dad later.. I'm inspired 👍

@skanman I actually barely knew my dad... I just reflect on him with some degree of care.

@freemo well you seem like a great dude.. and they say the apple doesn't fall far from the tree..

@AndyLowry To be honest only so much of it actually got to me. People like my dad are pretty serious about keeping the secrets and all.. but i do know the broad strokes at least.