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I'm blocked so I cantt correct Rich... but who is going to tell him that he is lieing (or misinformed).

We have clear rules about child porn as is shown below. I was asked but someone about it and at the time we had never had to address it so I mentioned tthe moderators would need to vote to get it added to our rules.. moments later we voted and added it... Naturally the person lied and posted out of context about the vote and never bothered to let people know we updated our rules moments later.

As to his comment about kiwifarms.. lets be clear. I saw a list on a website whose domain name was not associated with kiwifarms as far as I knew.. it just so happened that list was generated using a tool that happened to be written by kiwifarms... obviously I didnt know this.

This shit is getting absurd...

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LRT etc. The admin of QOTO uses kiwifarms tools and says whether he'd block instances with CSAM would have to be decided "democratically". Everyone...
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@freemo reading this guys posts, he's clearly nuts - i'd say he is just lying. imho you give these people too much attention ;)

even if a software was written by hitler himself it would be just a tool.

in any case i think things need to be called out as what they are, lies and diffamation campaigns. this bullshit in the name of equality and justice is getting out of hand.

@freemo of course, i didn't want to imply there is no damage! what i wanted to say is that this is not an even playing field. you seem to act in good faith - i'm not sure about this on the other side. spreading these kind of accusations without at least linking to solid proof etc. seems the opposite of it. fighting it might be futile and just drains energy which can better be used for more productive things :)

@freemo
> The admin of QOTO uses kiwifarms tools

I can not grasp what's wrong with people who can start their argument with "using tool made by X".

@skobkin I garuntee you there was a line of code written by a racist somewhere on your computer that you use daily.... its a rather absurd argument, even considering just how vile kiwifarms is

@freemo
I know a lot of people who uses file system written by a man who killed his wife.
Should I block them? Or maybe ask people to cancel them? I don't know where to start my career as a clown.

@freemo It's a fork of a tool that was originally written by worse people than KF (a nonce instance which was whining about being blocked). I have no idea if Mint actually uses the farms themselves other than the Git and possibly the fedi instance.

But I have a strong feeling they're using that to discredit anyone complaining about being blocked. These kinds of people just created another blocklist to block all the Pleroma and Soapbox instances, and I mean a 1200+ domain list.
https://ligma.pro/@r000t/109396033621130514

They're the same types on Twitter who'd run "blockchain" scripts on peoples accounts.

@pawlicker Are there normal sain people left on the fediverse.. what the fuck is going on....

@freemo Mostly in smaller instances IMO, as in ones that restrict registration to keep out people who would definitely look to fighting half the internet and fediverse.

The problem with a blanket Pleroma blocklist because "bad people" use it, is there are a lot of left-wing instances and hobby based instances that run it. Sure many of them moved to Akkoma, but a lot run vanilla Pleroma and the thing is, the developers of Pleroma are definitely not Nazis (see the Alex Gleason feud). I know for a fact most of the devs are LGBT and at least one former Pleroma dev was transgender. The same goes with soapbox, I know a trans person runs ap.maladaptive.art and it's blocked for being problematic just because of running Soapbox. The admin doesn't agree with Alexes views, but likes the UI of Soapbox and feels that it overcomes a barrier to fedi adoption.

Put it this way, this instance of mine that I don't use that often on a SPARC box (for a month long challenge of using old hardware) is now on that list because they just scraped all Pleroma instances.
@freemo @pawlicker

quite a few I believe, just needs some organization
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