@admitsWrongIfProven @freemo a person with rage control issues and no criminal record can still likely go buy a gun. Or do you think we aught to have a psych eval every time we want a new gun? That's pretty crazy if so considering the us has a history of using mental health against people in exploitative ways. Imagine a world where you need a psych eval to buy a car or a hammer or a bag of pebbles? Madness

@thatguyoverthere @admitsWrongIfProven @freemo

Having a psych eval as a prerequisite for a driving license doesn't sound totally weird. As an example, Zürich requires psych eval of drivers who have done something particularly reckless while driving if they want to keep being allowed to drive. I don't think it's required ahead of time for any license, but heavy vehicle/bus/... license requires a medical exam which I can't find the exact description of.

@robryk @admitsWrongIfProven @freemo first I think there is a difference between a previous offender and every person. Why am I expected to prove my trustworthiness when government agencies aren't required to do the same? I've done nothing that harms anyone in a way that is against the law. It's impossible for anyone to claim they've never done harm or lost self control or will never. Even infants have fits of rage. Augustine talked about this.
@robryk @admitsWrongIfProven @freemo second I think if a person commits a crime and is convicted (it doesn't count if not) and they serve out their sentence, their debt to society should be considered repayed in almost all cases (all really if the punishment were to always fit the crime).
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@thatguyoverthere @admitsWrongIfProven @robryk

Id agree but i think it needs to be less punishment oriented and more recovery oriented. If your on parol i think its ok to have to prove yourself

@freemo @admitsWrongIfProven @robryk yes I agree. Just being lazy and using a euphemism but it's about restitution and recovery. I do think some crimes deserve at minimum life sentences if for no other reason than to protect innocent people from fully actualized monsters (rape, molestation, etc). But I believe any crime that has a specific temporal path to restitution should be basically expunged after the sentence has been served. If the sentence is insufficient then the law should be updated to reflect that.
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