Gun Control state executive order struck down (New Mexico) 

As expected, a federal judge 👨🏾‍⚖️ struck down the state executive order banning #guns in #NewMexico issued by the Governor.

👉🏾 Federal judge blocks New Mexico health order banning guns kcra.com/article/federal-judge

Regardless how one feels about #GunControl, solutions to gun violence need to be addressed by the legislature, not the executive branch (whose job is to enforce the law).

Hopefully this inspires the legislature to take action.

Gun Control state executive order struck down (New Mexico) 

@darnell

“They have voiced concerns about the ability to protect themselves from violent crime in a city that has been scarred by drive-by shootings and deadly road rage incidents”

Really? Good luck with that. 

Why do we as a society continue to put up with the paranoid silliness of gun owners? Statistically, if you’re a gun owner, the most likely person to shoot you is...you. The rest is just crying in your pillow.

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Gun Control state executive order struck down (New Mexico) 

@SpinozasHeresy

Statistically speaking **I** am far more likely to shoot a criminal than myself or an innocent person. For the general population filled with less responsible people that may not be the case. But you cant apply the general to the individual.

Some individuals will have a high probability of killing a bad guy, some people will have a high probability of killing themselves. The problem is it is hard to tell which is which, and ultimately people have a right to decide for themselves which of those groups they think they are in.

@darnell

Gun Control state executive order struck down (New Mexico) 

@freemo @darnell

Ooo. Tough guy, eh? Your answer proves my point. Gun owners live in a Hollywood fantasy land where they’re going to save the day with their trusty piece in hand. It would be comic if it weren’t so tragic. 

Gun Control state executive order struck down (New Mexico) 

@SpinozasHeresy

Stop being pedantic, Neither I nor any gun owners see ourselves as tough guys. We just want to be responsible and ensure that should we ever be in the horrible happen stance of needing to defend ourselves to save our own lives, that we can.

@darnell

Gun Control state executive order struck down (New Mexico) 

@freemo @SpinozasHeresy It depends on where you live & whether the police 👮🏾‍♂️ in your area are ethical.

If you live in a high-crime area with corrupt cops, obtaining a gun is wise, as you are the only line of defense for your family.

If you live in an area with low crime & a respectable police force, owning a gun may not be needed. The latter is becoming a rarity in America, unfortunately.

Gun Control state executive order struck down (New Mexico) 

@darnell

The quality of the police force is of limited help. Even if you have 100% devoted servant police they still will arrive on the scene almost all of the time **after** the crime happens. So the only one who will ever save you in the vast majority of incidents will be you.

Now being a low-crime area, that may diminish the need. If there was little to no crime no one would really need a gun to defend themselves at all. That said no where int he world is without crime so even if your in a low-crime area having a gun is the responsible choice just in case.

@SpinozasHeresy

Gun Control state executive order struck down (New Mexico) 

@darnell @freemo @SpinozasHeresy

another gun lobby myth. Crime has been declining in the United States for decades.

Statistically,  after YOU being the most likely person to shoot you, the next likely person to shoot you is an acquaintance, family member, or spouse.

defend your family? Seems like the only defense a gun is likely to provide is the one that defends you against people you know.

Gun Control state executive order struck down (New Mexico) 

@SpinozasHeresy

Again applying general statistic to an individual is a failure in understanding statistics.

The statistics you are describing apply to an individual selected randomly from the population. It does not take into consideration the individual or the context.

So you cant talk about **me** since you did not select me randomly from the population. Even if you did you'd only be talking about your selection process and why it is likely to yield a particular individual.. talking about "me" without reference to how you selected me really makes no sense when we talk about statistics (and also why most people misunderstand statistics).

@darnell

Gun Control state executive order struck down (New Mexico) 

@freemo @darnell

OK. Enjoy your gun. It’s your right.

Gun Control state executive order struck down (New Mexico) 

@SpinozasHeresy

Obviously I will and I do.

@darnell

Gun Control state executive order struck down (New Mexico) 

@SpinozasHeresy @freemo I am not sure what fantasy world you live in, but mass shootings are up across the country. I live in a relatively safe are & we have experienced three already.

Gun Control state executive order struck down (New Mexico) 

@darnell @freemo

and out of those three shootings, how many arm citizens defend themselves? 

Gun Control state executive order struck down (New Mexico) 

@SpinozasHeresy

Sounds like people need to get some guns in good peoples hands so they can.

@darnell

Gun Control state executive order struck down (New Mexico) 

@freemo @darnell

Not interested in having a statistical pissing contest. I could probably find three examples that would counter this one. 😴

Like I said, enjoy your guns. You have every right.

Gun Control state executive order struck down (New Mexico) 

@SpinozasHeresy

Im sure you can find a few that have very different numbers. No need to get into a statistical pissing context cause no matter if it prevented 5% or 50% of mass shootings it is undeniable that it prevented some number of them, thats the point.

@darnell

Gun Control state executive order struck down (New Mexico) 

@freemo @darnell

I get it now! The poison is the cure!! Brilliant!!

Gun Control state executive order struck down (New Mexico) 

@SpinozasHeresy

No you dont. Its neither the poison nor the cure.

@darnell

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