Who do you think will win the presidential election, and who do you WANT to win?

@freemo

55% biden.. you're living in your own kuku-lala-land...and so is he.

@mk kuku for wanting biden to win, or for thinking he will win?

I mean i think thinking he will win isnt that crazy, but I agree **wanting** him (or Trump) to win is certainly a bit kuuku

@freemo

the current us government is a authoritarian, collectivist regime that recklessly forces their believe-system on dissidents.

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@mk Oh so your issue isnt with biden but rather the whole governement, both left and right... yea sure i agree with your statement then.

@freemo

"issue isnt with biden"

that man is a vegetable.. you can't even walk 5meters without beeing lost.

wtf are you talking about? of course he's not in charge. he's a sock-puppet.

@mk

Of course he is senile and dim witted. But you said your issue was with the currect government. That implies you meant everyone which is half dems and half gop.

@freemo

my issue is the corrupt swamp that trump underestimated and failed to drain in 2016.

i hope he'll do a better job in 2024.

"Of course he is senile and dim witted."

then why the fuck would 55% of you readers vote for him? how retarded do you have to be?

@freemo

ideocracy is literally a documentary because of retarded leftists like you.

youtu.be/EwvV_YOYa14?t=55

@mk

You said like a fucking moron blaming me for the problems of the left for ::checks notes:: agreeing with you that biden is a senile ass.

@mk

The answer to this is important: Trump's unforced choices as to how he conducted himself turned off so much of the public that they'd rather vote for the senile and dim witted person heading the dystopian nightmare you described above.

The worse terms one uses to describe the worse that reflects on .

Describe Biden as bad as you'd like. It just means Trump's political strategy still managed to face losing to THAT again.

You can namecall voters all you want, but it doesn't change that reality.

@freemo

@volkris @mk @freemo Imagine being so lost in your own ideological bubble that you think the 2020 election was fair, or in any way reflected the will of the public rather than the deepstate.

@SirBemrose

I love how the crazies on the right sound exactly like the crazies on the left at this point. The left is on about their russian conspiracy and how it stole the election in Trumps favor, meanwhile the right has their own crazy conspiracy QAnon theory that the election was stolen for Biden.

It is almost indistinguishable at this point.

@volkris @mk

@freemo

The difference, of course, is that one side has mountains of evidence (that you'd never see if you only watch corporate media), and the other side has the fraudulent Steele Dossier. But hey, keep thinking they're somehow equivalent if it makes you feel better.

@volkris @mk

@SirBemrose

> The difference, of course, is that one side has mountains of evidence (that you'd never see if you only watch corporate media), and the other side has the fraudulent Steele Dossier. But hey, keep thinking they're somehow equivalent if it makes your feel better.

QED This is pretty much word for word what the left says too. I feel like if you were in a room with a leftie you two would just be completing each others sentences.

@volkris @mk

@SirBemrose as neither side is open to hearing each others' perspectives, they are functionally equivalent.

Oh the truth is on your side? That's nice. But your own claim to a highground doesn't actually move the ball.

At best you can feel smug about it, but then again, both sides are arriving at that same conclusion, ending in the same smugness that doesn't really matter to anyone not satisfied with narcissism.

@freemo @mk

@freemo

"The left[..]russian conspiracy and how it stole the election in Trumps favor"

i'm getting confused..what's russia gate again? is it..

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1. ..the alleged russia-false-flag against the bidens? ..were the hunter-biden-laptop turned out to be authentic?

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2. ..or the trump/russia colution scandal. that turned out to be a hoax financed by Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential campaign?

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@SirBemrose @volkris

@SirBemrose imagine not realizing that claims of deepstate are thrown around to explain anything the claimer doesn't want to hear, to the point that apparently pretty much the whole country must be involved in that conspiracy, except that one person.

I guess they're just lonely?

Have you considered that when the public basically IS the deepstate, based on how vast the conspiracy claims must be, then the will of the public is the will of the deepstate, since they're the same people?

Now if you'll pardon me, I need to go laminate my deepstate membership card. The line at the deepstate coffee shop was too long this morning so I had to put it off.

@mk @freemo

@volkris

"public basically IS the deepstate"

you're actually too dump to talk to.

@SirBemrose @freemo

@volkris @freemo

"how he conducted himself turned off so much of the public"

what did he do wrong?

@mk @freemo @volkris it was a cia/darpa funded project that looked into how they could control people's minds, thoughts and ideas which culminated into the 5th column media conglomeration we have to put up with today. you know an mkultra victim by their mantras of "trust the science" or qanon boomers and the like. redditors and official narrative believers.

@Nudhul @freemo @volkris

"people voted for biden because of mkultra"

no. people voted for biden, because the propaganda media told them that trump is a racist, biggot, fascist.
..just like the do right now with any dissedent.

shocker: the media doesn't tell you the truth. billionairs like rupert murdoch controll the media as a personal tool to attack the opposition aka their enemies.

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@mk @freemo @volkris yes, the propaganda media (which is an arm of the state as various leaked documents proving collaberation have shown) IS mkultra

@Nudhul @freemo @volkris

yes, when the states takes control over a news organisation or social network, then it becomes a organ of the government.

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no it's not mkultra, because that project ended in 1973.

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barack obama legalized psyops against american people in 2015 via executive order. that's totally fine, because they're the good guys..right?

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@mk @freemo @volkris the research ended in 73.

what do you think they did with it all?
@Nudhul @mk @freemo @volkris

It would probably be more accurate to call it Operation Mockingbird related, MK Ultra would be the psychological payload more specifically? Either way I generally agree, specific names aside. "Ignore the Nashville AT&T bombing!"

@Nudhul

i don't think that they're still drugging people to force behaviour.

they probably shifted their attention towards the internet, because psyops scale better.

i don't know a lot about nudging and ephemeral expiriences.. i don't like speculating.

@freemo @volkris

@mk what you've written above is RIFE with speculation!

@Nudhul @freemo

@mk even if for the sake of argument we run with your claims of vast conspiracy, what Trump did wrong was to adopt strategies that played into those instead of countering them.

Great, the public is subject to vast amounts of social control? Well what Trump did wrong was in his failure to counter that.

@volkris

"Trump did wrong was to adopt strategies that played into those instead of countering them."

please name 3 things...

@mk firstly, he failed to live up to his promise to end your vast conspiracy when he was in power.

Secondly, after that broken promise he made rude comments that gave the conspiracy extra fodder to work with. All his mean tweets. They confirmed the story being told by the conspiracy.

Thirdly, his losing efforts to challenge election proceedings in courts earned him no benefit but did play into the conspiracy's hands, giving them even more to say, "Look, we're right!"

I could go on and on, but the guy basically supported the conspiracy.

Wait, maybe Trump didn't actually do wrong, and his appearance as being such a loser and failure was actually an act because HE'S PART OF THE CONSPIRACY!

Woah.

@volkris

"end your vast conspiracy"
"the conspiracy extra fodder"
"play into the conspiracy’s hands"
"supported the conspiracy"
"HE’S PART OF THE CONSPIRACY!"

bro..what conspiracy are you talking about?
and also.. fuck your feelings..what are you? a female?

"he made rude comments[..]All his mean tweets"

@mk

I'm referring to whatever conspiracy you want to be promoting today.

I don't figure you're going to be consistent about buying into any particular one.

@volkris @freemo

"doesn’t change that reality."

the reality is that trump is going to win in 2024 (if he doesn't get killed or booted of the ballot by the fascists)

and your hurt feelings doesn't change that.

@freemo @mk choose your faction
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