Doc Freemo 
@xyfdi While obviously an absurd idea, it actually works with more things than you might think (not that its smart given safer alternatives)... like this works with biologically complex poisons (building up an immunity through small doses over time).
@ryan @freemo There was the old rabies vaccination where a scientist was experimenting with a lethal virus and the nervous tissue from animals that died from rabies.
I think the rationale for vaccinating the little girl who was bitten by a rabid dog was that it worked on animals and she would likely die with or without it in the worst case.
Old vaccines and inoculations were somewhat horrifying. Vaccinations have been whatever the company decides for some time.
Much like the old vaccines, the long term effects will have to be observed. Perhaps there will be some changes in ethics regarding vaccines, especially the trials.
It's a new frontier and perhaps ethics will make a return like the seemingly inevitable untreatable gonorrhea that's on the horizon.
@freemo The problem is that the mRNA shots were called "vaccines", and that is what "anti-vaxxers" are protesting against. It was never against real vaccines. At the RFK level, there is protest against *untested* vaccines - essentially all real vaccines developed since 1986, when Congress absolved Pharma of liability for vaccine injuries. Before 1986, each vaccine went through about 5 years of testing. Now, new vaccines (e.g. "flu" vaccine) goes through at most 5 days of testing.
In the case of flu, it is similar enough to previous vaccines that new vaccine injuries are unlikely (and there has been no increase). But more novel new vaccines, like the RSV is more worrisome. Hopefully, while there was only days of testing before release, there are non-fraudulent records kept of injuries as it it used (since there is no liability).
@customdesigned Nah thats complete BS for almost every antivaxer (though perhaps you are an exception)... When th antivaxer loons when full speed was during COVID and they were against **all** the covid-19 vacines despite the fact that several were not mRNA based, and they attacked those along side the others often citing nonsense statistics across all the vaccines.
@freemo My daughter and son-in-law got the sino-vac (non mRNA). They wouldn't have gotten anything, since Covid is not dangerous for healthy young people - but they were required to get something because they were pilots. So the Sino-vac essentially gave them Covid.
@freemo Most people were not aware there were real vaccines available for Covid-19. In fact, there weren't in the US. (The DNA based shots were almost as bad.)
@customdesigned Huh? Most everyone was aware there were regular vaccine (non mRNA) and they were available since the very beginning. I avoided the mRNA myself because it was new tech, and had access to non-mRNA choices since the get go. the Johnson and Johnson vaccine was non-mRNA for example as were several others.
@freemo There is also the issue of early vaccination. Vaccines are much more harmful for newborns and very young children. Breastfeeding supplies all the antibodies the mother has - so if Mom has been vaccinated against polio, the newborn is protected while they are mostly breastfeeding.
When baby is getting weaned, then you look at what vaccinations might be a good idea - and prioritize, so you don't do them all at once on a very young child.
@freemo I shoot myself with .22 to become immune to bullets so I can work myself up to .50-cal...