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Trust in Fediverse seems is fading - AND not being built on as relationships / networks etc - Here are my workings and estimations... 

(Hope I'm not projecting this)

Consider it as a work in progress my dear :fediverse: VERSION 2
(will increment this as I type today) - food for thought...

Hard to see what you see but I guess you use :fediverse: not much more than a few messages - and probably think "why do I need to more?" and "Not my fault if this place fall apart / dies / gets eaten for the same reasons as seen before (take overs / mergers / invaders etc) -

"HEY it should all run without my care / attention / participation to it all! "

TLDR: Below is reasoning of which general group on Fediverse you might fall into (and briefly your mindset / focus which is why you might appear to care whether it's true or not) and also what's going wrong added to under the categories

All as I see / experienced / experiencing in response to my ideas given in general, responses to my ideas or observations from interactions with others (or lack of) without my involvement. Limited but at least closer to first / second hard without any big stake in it other than doing something about XYZ invasions / potentials / building trust in ourselves...

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Basically groups of people who moved over from Twitter cold-turkey from rug-pull type stuff or more intentionally and just Fediverse here now in a similar same way (not really building anything and being mostly user /consumer only)...

and those who *might* realise or not that as time goes on their time here is running out on Fediverse too as and bigger players are simply moving next door / shifting operations (literally Twitter, FB, Meta, Google / Alphabet Group going to dragnet and just move here / use us even more)

And continue to index the fuck out of us with near no-attempt by admins or users to protect us / themselves / their users from data-scraping / stuff (some we can't see but you know their patterns of profit are undoubted and their existence is their own definition of their own existence ⬅️ yes that's clever )... STOP READING if you don't agree with this.

STOP READING if you think predators or war makers changed their stripes and now their intentions are much better and it's not that bad, they wouldn't be so cut-throat in the more-civilised ways of playing off people against themselves to gobble us like a Pacman dots all the while... :pacman: ●☻●☻●☻●☻ :pacman: ◌ ◌ ◌ ◌ ◌

Commercialism's comforts has basically blinded us / made us think it's all ok and doable using their ways.

Anyway here is more on this:

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Groups and basic reasoning why
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█"Boys and Toys" (Computers or similar "This is all going to help" or "this is my fun leave me alone")
█Gamers, FPS shooters - like war playing is ok for so long or ever justified emptying so much time on (we've all been their, now it's time to get out)
█Hobbiest / Modders / Fiddlers (PC. . , , etc)... some genuine hacks we might use "one day" but still their communication is probably limited "like why should I look into anything else other my family and hobbies?"
News ("oh wow this could really save the world again" stuff or "oh my god look what they are doing now... let me re-tweet it.... I mean "boost")
█(etc etc... overall humans who are interacting with non-humans as main material - doing the consumption of time and interaction while not seeing the human sides are lacking as a result - directly communication and therefore systems etc - Advanced users can also be just users with users under them as an instance.

AND ALL here not caring to interact much, few posts back and forth MAX. Not many marathon runners - if you feel bad about this comment you might have been 1 of ?0 I contact during each month directly offering / asking anything and everything to catch a bit of interest, even to dispel any doubts openly.

Verdict: "Humans are inefficient and imperfect therefore ignore them" / "why try it's futile" types of people)

█Bourgeois (Too rich or Rich enough upper-middle class - don't want to rock any boats and happy where they are.
Why spend time on those below me or those non-family people?
Me talk to non-blood related people or think of "1 love" humanity - naaaa)

ANSWER: Like Martial Arts halls you can improve the lower belts by training with them and thos that stick around can be like family who then come up and fight with you / teach next calls or generation... it's not business deal always, but if you treat life like that then it will be just buying / selling people... which we know doesn't work well / ignores the mind or general issues of suffering by people...

Nobody wants to do these things actively apart from a few posts.

█Alternative sexuality- # ... etc
People who escaped from masses of others not quite accepting or upto speed...
More active, vocal and trying that others... probably because their life depends on it and sexuality in danger by those confused by new and strange purely from not having experience / learning from mainstream.


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etc 🚨
all kind of the same and self explanatory
...just some just news echoes or some trying to do it all on their own mostly (which does make sense remember you need lower echelon as cringe as we might be).


A strong potential as already superior in activity and communication (yes even in making sense from things despite profile or server suggesting otherwise). Clever not just in humour or in killing time. A ton of stuff simply to view and ignore without big feelings.

spectators - action watching

Trump etc no need say more - you know why you watch this stuff rather than work on something with us (in the other groups)

to come today... will revise or add new post v soon... follow with notification if important to you (switch off if it's ever bullshit)

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EXPLAINED STUFF / DISCLAIMER
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I included the word "you" here to make it "a bit more personal" so you question yourself to which category listed you fall in - and ask yourself if I'm approximately right (?).

It's totally ok to say this to yourself but consider coming out of your zone of comfort.

Made from first hand experience (attempts) and previous measured bias = a list of groups (on Fediverse but general groups too) who are perhaps not doing enough BUT also doing the opposite to their own ethos sometimes (much like Facebook while anti-Facebook and posting there a lot).

I estimate these groups as main reasons why for overall relationships / groups / networks are not to my level of expectation (while still leaving room for other group and reasons)

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EXAMPLES OF SLACKNESS / NO FIGHTBACK OF EVEN EASY STUFF
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Like "no consent" or simple footer for "no permission granted" or "information is not for scraping or used commercially" or CC-BY-SA-NC).

This includes Eugene / Gargon + my admin @freemo who I've asked a good while back either about Google links here feeding the commercial farms (Gargron) or adding a footer to our particular server (freemo).

How bad do people want to keep Fediverse and is there enough people to hold it? Right now, as conversation I'm not sure.
As admins and few conscious yes, but without help of masses and "upgrading" your users then your users are the weak point and we'll just move to the next thing or stick to being "bridged" ( )

I reserve right to correct myself or see if anyone has a good comeback to justify changing this - all is from positive want for better / more reasoning... but my account shows what I've tried a lot... I don't many other to call their account and try for these 'upgrade the weak-points' type of things called users...
users being just are not enough and we can encourage more!

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