Trust in Fediverse seems is fading - AND not being built on as relationships / networks etc - Here are my workings and estimations...
(Hope I'm not projecting this title and consider as a work in progress)
Hard to see what you see but I guess you use #Fediverse not much more than a few messages - and probably think "why do I need to more?" and "Not my fault if this place dies to the same reasons as before - it should all run without my care / attention / participation to it all!"
TLDR: Below is reasoning of general groups on Fediverse (and briefly their mindset / focus) and also what's going wrong added to these categories as I see / experienced / experiencing it in response to ideas in general, my ideas or observations of interactions with others (or lack of).
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TLDR (bit longer - or skip to next section)
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Basically groups of people who moved over from Twitter (mostly) and just use it in the same way... who *might* realise or not in time that their time is running out on Fediverse too as and bigger players are simply moving next door (literally Twitter, FB, Meta, Google / Alphabet Group going to dragnet and just move here)
Or continue to index the fuck out of us with no attempt by admins or users to protect us / themselves / their users from data-scraping / #AI stuff (soem I can't see but you know their patterns of profit are undoubted as their definition of their own existence)... STOP READING if you don't agree with this.
If you think predators or war makers changed from their pure-profit intentions and playing off people against themselves to gobble us like a Pacman dot... ●☻●☻●☻●☻ ◌ ◌ ◌ ◌ ◌ then stop reading and go back to commercialism comforts.
Anyway here is more on this:
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Groups and basic reasoning why
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█Boys and Toys
█Gamers, FPS shooter like war is ok or worth emptying so much time on
█Hobbiest / Modders / Fiddlers (PC. #Retro. #Retrocomputing, #PCB, #Lights etc)
█#Computing News ("oh wow this could really save the world again" stuff)
█(etc etc... overall humans dealing with non-humans as main material / time consumption / interaction spent
AND ALL here not caring to interact much, few posts back and forth MAX.
Verdict: "Humans are inefficient and imperfect therefore ignore / why try" types of people)
█Bourgeois (Too rich or Rich enough upper-middle class not to rock any boats and why spend time on those below you or those non-family people / non-blood related)
ANSWER: Like Martial Arts halls you improve the lower belts treating them like family who then come up and fight with you / teach next calls or generation...
Nobody wants to do that actively apart from a few posts.
█Alternative sexuality- #Trans #Anime #Fans... etc
People who escaped from masses of others not quite accepting or upto speed...
More active, vocal and trying that others... probably because their life depends on it and sexuality in danger by those confused by new and strange purely from not having experience / learning from mainsteam.
#War spectators - action watching
#Politics #uspol Trump etc no need say more - you know why you watch this stuff rather than work on something with us (in the other groups)
#more to come today... will revise this post v soon...
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EXPLAINED STUFF / DISCLAIMER
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I included the word "you" here to make it "a bit more personal" so you question yourself to which category listed you fall in - and ask yourself if I'm approximately right (?).
It's totally ok to say this to yourself but consider coming out of your zone of comfort.
Made from first hand experience (attempts) and previous measured bias = a list of groups (on Fediverse but general groups too) who are perhaps not doing enough BUT also doing the opposite to their own ethos sometimes (much like Facebook while anti-Facebook and posting there a lot).
I estimate these groups as main reasons why for overall relationships / groups / networks are not to my level of expectation (while still leaving room for other group and reasons)
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EXAMPLES OF SLACKNESS / NO FIGHTBACK OF EVEN EASY STUFF
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Like "no consent" or simple footer for "no permission granted" or "information is not for scraping or used commercially" or CC-BY-SA-NC).
This includes Eugene / Gargon + my admin @freemo who I've asked a good while back either about Google links here feeding the commercial farms (Gargron) or adding a footer to our particular server (freemo).
How bad do people want to keep Fediverse and is there enough people to hold it? Right now, as conversation I'm not sure.
As admins and few conscious yes, but without help of masses and "upgrading" your users then your users are the weak point and we'll just move to the next thing or stick to being "bridged" ( #BlueSkyBridge #BlueSky #Threads )
I reserve right to correct myself or see if anyone has a good comeback to justify changing this - all is from positive want for better / more reasoning... but my account shows what I've tried a lot... I don't many other to call their account and try for these 'upgrade the weak-points' type of things called users...
users being just are not enough and we can encourage more!
re: Trust in Fediverse seems is fading - AND not being built on as relationships / networks etc - Here are my workings and estimations...
@infosec_jcp @freemo █For sure I don't assume everything unproductive is not good or if I don't see it or some result "for me" then it's bad - but just overall like for a while (most of my life) and a whole generation of people (me included) we got wrapped up in Playstation or fiddling with windows (or newer version as Linux included) and types of "more of the same or a bit better" and as humans (including Admins) they mostly left behind humanity or less space for it or can't do more which I sympathise a bit but now they have to undo that now they have things mostly running and need to di it less...
I guess the level in person (across the board from street, church, parents etc) can't do than 2 mins chat or have distanced-belief that even if you get to the "yeah you're right" stage that they can go to "this is really the way as cringe as this is- it's humans not computers FTW MOSTLY!" - especially now we have all the tools we can run out so easily as own instances for a #jitsi chat or #docker 1 click type service etc (though that's really more recent to be honest - even a year maybe to be known or implemented)...