HUMAN SOLUTION = LESS MACHINES + MORE PERSONAL HUMAN CONTACT !... OR...? 

HEY I GOT THE HUMAN !

MINIMAL TECH + HAND-CRAFTED HUMAN CONTACT

= SOLVES THE EXCESSIVE OVER-THE-TOP USAGE OF USING MACHINES AND GIVES HUMANS SOMETHING TO BETTER CUSTOMISED / CURATED TO THEMSELVES ! "

(maybe you could say it better?.. anyone ? / @messaroundmarx ?)

Hashtag version of this

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= Overall solves the other problems using "slowly but surely" method as more and more open up to work and solve / clear up each others mess / communicate more clearly why this or that works.

@freeschool
If i understand you correctly, your focus is on finding other ways of mediation between human needs and supply, not by anonymous markets, but #P2P networks. I'd agree with the reservation that pure P2P networks are regularly too small to provide sustainable livelihoods and lead to a fragmentation of society into many "tribes" competing for planetary resources. Some kind of trans-personal mediation will be necessary. There's a proposal bringing both together:
commonism.us

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Mostly about #friendships and linking things - so exploring individuals to see they are multi-dimensional and link things ourselves using the basic messaging systems like Mastodon as the "P2P"... 

@messaroundmarx Thanks
Yes for the human needs and supply but not only that as main focus. For the friendship and personally exploring individuals who are multi-dimensional.

(e.g. I'm not just an artist or just selling paintings - I have other important things that are not validated by modern Capitalism but just as important)

➡️ So it's also about and linking things -

➡️ and P2P in the sense of us as people doing it since nothing else can read a profile and judge it like another individual looking for mutuality !

THAT'S THE SHORT VERSION
AS 2 POINTS ABOVE

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it's not just business or machines to serve each other but people who really care.
Increasingly machines (and people behind them) are NOT giving or giving back less and less... trojan horsing.

Individually we all have many things tied together and do them all for a reason. These things we could all understand and integrate, then learn from to work emotional or as project together.

➡️ Oh. On your point about
The "trans-personal mediation" sounds kind fun but I have no idea where you pulled that from - again interesting but I'm saying simple for now...

There are so many who love what they do / we do and have done already, just 'a bit' more often together (?),, positively (?)... I think is harmless and already can be done here.
Even with active critique and stone-throwing correction can help us get better dedicated feedback instead of being alone or just-by-chance comments.

Would be wonderful progress to just telling it how it is and not spend our whole lives making only products for Capitalism without some meaning. There are plenty of fans and member here but NEARLY-NONE actually have dedicated responders - missed opportunity even with the fans / members.

➡️ BUSINESS OR PLEASURE OR BOTH?
I can see there is a distinction and I thank you for separating things - it's needed to say what it includes or doesn't exclude - but it's also basic from what we see Capitalism stripping or what / machines cut out can't actively encouraging much - which is actual mutual human help and friendship without it having to be too desperate or a transaction either.

➡️ Humanity as social and adding more human time-slices back into what basic social machine helps us send basic email type message. Instead of machine/busine$$ ways to get stuff done, costing us all more and more, and sometimes crap and full of regret at the end anyway!

➡️ People have been stuck doing the same limited stuff and at the same time wonder (occasionally) how it got to this... basically by not participating or trying with people because it's not standardised !

➡️ If people are being used like batteries (for their body) or only towards 1-dimersional ways then it's really obvious to face each other one by one until more things match... Just to be used as tools like machines working for our leaders is 💯% not the way - and "of course" all this *narrow* mindedness comes from us inside what funnels it back to them as or human - effectively they are losing our humanity for us and filtering it out into their pockets charging transaction fees AND not aiming to put it in anywhere else like the arts, let alone humanity etc

Another example:

➡️ Online RIGHT NOW there are people on (etc) hammering the hashtags...
1000's spending hrs in thread or rabbit holes (it seems) and then not having much at the end to show for it, not doing anything productive as even (unless you count throwing stones as a friendship in war temporarily and then walking away when that leader is dead and a new one replaced them).

So they waste their precious time after the cathartic and therapeutic effects of a few stones and go back for more like a drug as a emotional output (leaders even feed off it, loving it to scrape even-worse ideas from their fear posts and fear signals!).

➡️ It's just bad life-work..
and mis-spending time...

The "I don't have time" response is really the "I'm spending almost all my time wasting time like this so I no I'm not working to improve my skill and time on this or with others do something else than pick up the next stone and feel good in that way.."

➡️ It actually feels good to improve one's self but needs a few people to start and do it regular or yeah maybe mediate...

always needed mediating I guess but 'state' or 'system' to get people together isn't it ! Real justice can be done just between us getting better at it - communication, meanings, words, merging etc.

As a example we see how it works with Tinder and even the extreme taboo things like sex so quickly- so why can't we make some normal fucking friendship here LOL!
People don't even reply so we need to fix that. Daily I used to get emails from people replying asking why I contacted them from their contact page which was asking people to contact them if interested!

And can we do this 'sex' without another app?!! OK Mastodon has that covered too! Let's get chatting!

So little is needed / we have it already to practise a bit of ourselves and show others - ok maybe we need an account for that - and help people get off the hashtage and redirect emotions into our own work as a better circle / cycle at the same time and help others who are doing the same or at least wanting to (becomes weaving after a while and strong of people <--- imagine wifi mesh which is popular now but as people mesh!).

To standardised humanity obviously doesn't work and shouldn't expect it with dire fall out (and like going towards !) so to do humanity which isn't 1 standard or one individual archetype / template is hard - but when accepted simply works as the next weirdo / stranger to increment friendship (not even all it). It's so safe from far away it's ridiculous and feedback can be left with reasoning or just open talk for peer-review.

Sorry if long things but hope that makes sense (let me know)
and you had the short version which you can revisit back up the top.

People have to show and encourage others to do this perhaps..

➡️ Oh. On your point about
The "trans-personal mediation" sounds kind fun but I have no idea where you pulled that from - again interesting but simple .

OK I WROTE MORE BUT YOU CAN CUT THIS OFF- I LEFT IT IN...

I mean just do it yourself.

Acceptance that etc isn't the way and and friend-making ourselves to increment all stuffs we are doing already... while seeing what you can gel and accept in the other 'kooky' departments of or combination of or whatever.

If machines strip us and divide then our actual 'culture' has to change (or return to more how it was but as online forms looping back to offline forms) and that culture (multi-meaning word) will literally grow s into transition which we don't even need to name or call much more than ... "System" !

Honestly will have a look at the lined site but if any German, English, Worldwide human-being is reading this but not prepared to accept genuine human imperfection - then it's game over

We have already, what more would you want?

APPRECIATE YOUR REPLY BEFORE THIS ALSO !

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zirk.us/@messaroundmarx/113911

💬 You said:

" I'd go further: Tech "solutions" only exceptionally are really solving anything.

In most cases they are only incentive for new capital accumulation ("investment opportunities") to generate more profits, entailing more exploitation and environmental destruction."

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